The more I really study tape I think Chet is perfect for todays NBA. I think the Oden draft really has Blazer fans nervous about making the right pick. When you have a prospect like Chet who doesn’t look the prototypical part necessarily of who you want to use a high draft pick on it makes people a little antsy. Smith has just as many holes as a prospect but looks aesthetically like a guy who can become a superstar. The WCC argument of competition is about as lazy as it gets. So many greats in many sports played college against a variety of competition.
That's totally fine with me. If our scouts project Chet as something even close to that they should draft him and either let Nurk walk or preferably sign him now and then trade him if it's apparent that the two don't work together.
If you don't see why Chet's holes in his game make him more likely to be a total bust than the holes that Jabari has, then I don't know what to tell you. Chet is the riskier pick in my estimation but he probably has the higher ceiling. Jabari is the safest pick to give you production on both ends of the court. Paolo has the highest likelihood of being an all star and a defensive liability but all three could be all stars. I just don't see Paolo or Jabari being busts and there are a lot of ways that Chet ends up one.
LOL?!? Are you fucking serious? You think it's a guarantee that a guy that can shoot like Jabari, is as athletic as he is and is as intense on D as he is doesn't have a chance at being an all star? That's some Nostradamus level knowledge you have there. Like I said, I think that Chet has bigger bust potential but Paolo, Chet, Ivey, Shaedon and fucking Jabari all have all star potential and those are just the obvious ones. Ruling him out because you don't think a guy with shitty guards that still managed to score 17ppg as a freshman will never be able to create his own shot kinda tells me everything I need to know about you. Yeah, I drag Chet pretty badly but I always finish that shit off with the absolute fact that I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I say again: you guys have a lot more confidence in your own talent scouting than I could ever have. I can develop opinions about players once I see them in an NBA game a few times (and I'm often wrong about 1st or 2nd year players). But I'm just too iffy on projecting guys I've seen playing against college players onto an NBA floor I'm really leery of Holmgren, not so much because of his talent (which can be debated) but because in today's NBA it's just too difficult to have elite impact from the PF & C positions. Jokic-Giannis-Embiid...that's about it and Chet sure as hell doesn't appear to be capable of reaching their level. That's not to say that C's and PF's can't be impact players...I'm thinking of guys like Sabonis, Valunciuna, Adebayo, and Siakam (but Siakam isn't a big; stretch-4) I'm inclined to think that there will be Stretch-4's and wings out of this draft as good as Chet who don't have as many ways they could fail. But maybe that's wrong. I just look at Chet and think 'Porzingis' and then say no thanks
If the Blazers can't get Jabari Smith, it might end up being best for them if they stay at the #6 pick and take 6'8" Tari Eason.
I was actually referring to the post above yours from Zagger who said people ignore Jabari’s faults as a prospect because he “looks the part”. I agree with him, he has faults and it would really surprise me if Jabari became a superstar or consistent all star. And the fact that you’re blaming his guards is part of the issue. He shouldn’t need his guards to “set him up” if he was as good as you think. Also, I’ve never claimed to be some NBA draft guru. I’m a moron posting on a message board just like you. I don’t see the need to say “hey I don’t know what I’m talking about” because … surprise … that’s pretty much assumed on a fucking anonymous message board lmao. And I never said “guarantee”. But thanks, Nostradamus truly has nothing on me. I’m a superior intellect. Clearly.
Not really. There’s only a few players who are superstars and a few more who are consistent all stars. Didn’t say he wouldn’t be good or even very good. He could be. Just superstar/consistent all star is a little much in my view.
If we take Eason at #6 I’ll stop being a Blazer fan forever. That would be so stupid. You could trade down to #9 or #10 and get an extra asset.
If that's true, you should have stopped being a Blazer fan forever in 2017 when Olshey chose Caleb "Biggie" Swanigan over Kyle Kuzma.
Lol yeah, wasting the 26th pick is exactly the same as wasting the 6th pick. Ok buddy. A more apt comparison would be taking Meyers leonard at 6 instead of Damian Lillard, when you could’ve easily traded down from 6 and still got Meyers with your second pick but added an asset or two instead of massively over drafting someone.
Unless I'm misremembering, Bennett went first that year because someone had to. There were a lot of questions about him, but there were a lot of questions about a bunch of guys. Maybe someone didn't think he could possibly bust, but "many"? I don't remember that being the case at all.
This is correct. I still remember watching the broadcast of that draft, and the camera showed the shocked looks on all the GM's faces when the 1st pick was announced. I think that kind of speaks for itself.
