NBA comps for draft picks

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  1. BankTeller

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    Yeah I’ve been thinking the same thing about Nzosa as well. Safe to say that he is pretty much a bigger Greg Brown with more focus on defense. If we draft two rookie wings, we’re not going to have the minutes to give to everyone if we want to seriously compete anyway. So for me, Nzosa would probably be my first choice if I had to choose a guy to fall. Have this man ride the bench and play spot minutes for the first year or two. If he can ever develop a shot…geez.

    Brown at PF and Nzosa at C are pretty much two chunks of clay atm but man have I been encouraged by Chauncey’s development of Watford and Johnson. I’d be interest to see Chauncey can do with Nzosa and Brown in the next few years.

    Yeah, my one concern with Koloko is his inability to shoot. But that’s why I think Johnson would be an important get at backup C. Nurk’s playmaking combined with Johnson’s shooting, you can pretty much grab whoever is still available at 36. I like the idea of Robinson at 36 as well if Nzosa isn’t available.
     
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    good grief, check your own sorry drivel

    STOMP
     
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    Congrats on your confirmation bias. Others disagree and will continue to until proven otherwise... we shall see.

    STOMP
     
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    ?? Are you saying we should compare Holmgren to KD?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    apparently so. :rofl:
     
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    I think people can compare aspects of Holmgren's pre-draft analysis/critique to comparable aspects of KD's, without actually saying the players themselves are comparable.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    what aspects? that he's skinny?
     
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    Not just that! He's tall too!
     
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    Yes. That's exactly what people are comparing.
     
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    Maybe you should check my "sorry drivel," because, if you're trying to argue that WCC talent is so good that it's a comparable to what Chet will face in the NBA or what guys like Smith, Banchero and Ivey faced, there's a whoooooole big post a couple of pages back that covers it a lot better than "the WCC was good this year, that's a fact STOMP."
     
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    No college conference is as good as the NBA. I don't really understand the point you're trying to make here.
     
  12. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    so... confirming my "lazy ass" characterization of that comp. gotcha.

    There are far better comps of skinny dudes than a wing player who might be the best scorer in the game's history who plays nothing like Holmgren.
     
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    The mock draft I was just looking at listed Holmgren at 195lbs and Davis at 194lbs.

    That's my entry in the "lazziest comp contest"! :devilwink:
     
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    There are conferences that have athletes who are more comparable to the athletes you're going to find in the NBA than others, and conferences that have a lot more of them.

    Come on, Bones, you knew that point. You're better than this. Unless you legitimately think there are as many legitimate NBA prospects in the WCC as the ACC or the Big Ten or the SEC, in which case you'd be totally off your rocker.
     
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    There were eight times as many players from the ACC on opening-day NBA rosters this season than the WCC. Of the 11 WCC players in the NBA at the start of the season, nine were from Gonzaga.

    Kentucky had 27.

    https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...-most-players-2021-22-nba-opening-day-rosters

    Acknowledged that this says nothing about this season and what Holmgren played against this year, but it's a strong indicator that the most NBA-level players come out of Power 5 conferences by a wide margin, and it's already documented in this thread that trend is expected to continue this year and that Holmgren has struggled against those teams while beating up on obviously overmatched teams that were in the bottom two-thirds of the WCC.

    We've covered this already. At this point it just seems like some posters want to pretend it isn't the case.
     
  16. illmatic99

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    which mock was that?

    nbadraft.net had him at 222.
    DraftExpress had him at 222.
    NBA.com had him at 222.
    He was measured at 221.8 at the Combine. (Dame measured at 188.8)
     
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    Am guessing it was a joke about Johnny Davis weighing the same. And it being a very lazy comparison simply based on weight.
     
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    ah.
     
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    It was CBS sports I believe. I was just making a joke about basing comps on irrelevant coincidence.
     
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    mea culpa
     
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