Cronin isn't doing the same thing. He's doing what he did to have maneuverability . Most of the previous GM's were stagnant in movement. Or self pitying. I'm just saying, let the man do his job. Then when it's all over, if it's not to your liking, you can jump off ship, or go wait on your hillside for the end to come.
The part of the CJ trade that maybe upset me the most was throwing Nance in there. I really thought his game fit Billups coaching style and his game would translate well to playoff basketball. Obviously he’s injured a lot so I can see that side
Context matters. On a legit play-off team he would be a useful rotation member. On a team in need of a total overhaul, his value is marginal compared to a lotto pick. The inclusion of Hart doesn't change the fact Cronin got taken to the cleaners.
You don't get it. We are Portland. We never get star players to come to us through free agency. To expect players to want to come here that way is insanity. If you think otherwise you must not have been around as a Blazer fan very long. I've seen enough from Cronin to want him out before he does more damage.
Trade an "all star level" and get an "all star" in return. Simple question, Catman, yes or no answer only.: While I agree with you, for whatever ridiculous reason, PDX does have a history of not attracting named FA. my question (yes or no) is this: "Have we seen the team of Joe, Chauncey and Damian, recruit?" Yes. Or. No.
This is the definition of insanity. It does not matter who is going to try to recruit. Have you seen the way Cronin talks? I can assure you, he is not nearly the salesman Olshey is. Not gonna happen.
EXACTLY!!!! I agree with you.....Cronin is not the "used car salesman" Olshit was. Players sense this. They like Joe whereas they did not trust olshit. This I know. Example: Joe Ingles REALLY wants to be here. ( i hate to keep pulling this card but I have talked to him) That wasn't expected. I believe, and yes have hope, that players will respond to Joe Cronin. He is extremely likable, and in spite of what is written in here, he does know the game and the players. Same can be said for Coach. This isn't the greatest group of FA's this year, so factor that in on the "high-hopes for this year scale", but the NBA really is a people business.
that's what I thought. It was just Smith talking and his opinion doesn't gauge the value set by NBA GM's. It was pretty clear that Morey had no interest at all in CJ...and he stuck to his guns and got Harden
Joe Ingles is exactly the type of player that would sign with us. He is a fringe player at this point of his career and won't get us to anywhere close to being a contender. There is nothing to wait for on Cronin. I don't care if he is a super nice guy. Rich Cho was the nicest of all guys. Doesn't mean I want him as my gm.
Joe Ingles is a better more productive player now, than covington could ever dream about. That is an improvement, resulting from ridding roco. (in a round about way) You have your mind made up, I can see that (as do others).. I have fought a decent fight to attempt to enlighten folks to a less hyperbole way of observation, but I know when I am losing. Right or wrong.
I HAVE BEEN A FAN SINCE '77. I GET THE DRILL . But this downer mentality , when we haven't seen the final outcome is silly. I'm 58 and have had jobs that , even though they said i was an outstanding, never showed their happiness through higher pay & bonuses. It got me down. I wallowed in self pity at the companies that i felt , took advantage of my work ethic. Finally my daughter said, stop the pity party. Move on. That's what i'm doing now, and with the Blazers as well. Cronin is new to the job, but i like that he's following a plan, and trying to go guns at the issue. He may succeed, or he may not, but at least he's trying. It's like a pity party in here. The free agent class is called subpar by many experts. That doesn't mean that there aren't quality players that could help us. To me, the biggest hurdle to Cronin, is the pressure of getting the draft pick right. Plain & simple. We can't afford any Bowie's or Oden's, Leonard's or Collins. We need a home run. But you can't hit a home run, without getting to go to the plate. He's gonna get his chance.
One more nugget from my job.... Nobody...and I mean NOBODY is more adored in this league than Coach Billups. I see players, coaches, and other team personnel line my hallway waiting, sometimes 10 minutes to talk with Chauncey after he does his pre/post game media. No other NBAer has that effect. Not Pop, not LeBron, nobody.... I witness the Love. And that's all Ima gunna say 'bout that.
He showed us with his two trades he doesn't deserve a chance. Trusting him with one of the most important summers we have in terms of our future is a fool's errand.
In theory, Nance and Little are more productive than RoCo. In reality, they are hurt too often for it to matter. Ingles has hit the age when players naturally start downhill and he is coming off a bad injury. That's not hyperbole. I'm glad to wave goodbye to RoCo - but if there is any hyperbole here, it is the notion that Ingles can be relied on as a replacement.
How was he going to achieve, getting under the tax threshold , and gain cap room to maneuver without those deals? Did you talk to other GM's. Did they tell you Cronin could have gotten more franchise changing talent in return, and achieve the same maneuverability?
He certainly wouldn't be any type of upgrade that seemingly leaps us to contender status. The thought of that is insanity.