NFL's Most Overpaid Players

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5002168<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fox Sports News)</div><div class='quotemain'>This summer, Hines Ward missed 15 days of training camp to protest his contract. He's a four-time Pro Bowl player who would have earned $1.7 million in 2005 if the Steelers hadn't given him a new four-year deal worth $25.8 million six days before the regular-season opener. Depending on which list you consult, the $1.7 million would have ranked him somewhere between 11th and 35th among all NFL receivers.Most reasonable people can agree that Ward is worth more over the course of a season than what Sean "Diddy" Combs pays Farnsworth Bentley to carry his parasol.At various points last off-season, Javon Walker, Reuben Droughns, Antonio Gates, the annual subset of rookie first-round picks, and of course, Terrell Owens, dipped their toes in the holdout waters. All of them felt they were worth more than what they were either earning on an existing contract or what they were offered in a new deal. Only Gates was able to talk his employer into giving him a sizable salary bump, which leaves us with a lot of guys who will tell you they're underpaid when compared to their peers. And some of them probably have a legitimate gripe.But thanks to the T.O. saga, these stories are more ubiquitous than the Geico commercials featuring Tony Little ("You can do it!"), and we won't revisit them here. Instead of looking at which players are worth more than what they're currently earning (or at least they think they're worth more), we decided to take a look at the 10 most overpaid players in the NFL.Interestingly, for all the clamoring agents do to get their clients more money, you don't hear much about players offering to return some of that money after having a particularly poor season. That's where we come in. With the help of our Football Outsiders metrics, we can look at which players got Julia Roberts-type paydays only to give Eric Roberts-type performances.For a quick introduction to our statistics, all you need to know is that DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) is a statistic that compares a player's performance to the average performance of players in similar situations, and DPAR (Defense-adjusted Points Above Replacement) is statistic that compares the performance of each player to a baseline, when adjusted for opponent defensive quality. You can find a more detailed description of our methods here.10. RB Kevan Barlow, San Francisco 49ers2004 salary: $455K base, $1.6M signing bonus, $2.1M total, $900K cap value2005 base salary: $1.6MIn a part-time role two seasons ago, Barlow rushed for 1,024 yards and averaged 5.1 yards per carry. That off-season the 49ers signed him to a five-year deal, including an $8 million signing bonus, and he promptly turned into Ki-Jana Carter. Maybe that's overstating it a bit. In 2004, San Francisco lost starters Terrell Owens (WR), Jeff Garcia (QB), Derrick Deese (LT), and Ron Stone (RG), and Barlow ended the season with 822 yards while his yards per carry dipped to 3.4.According to DPAR, Barlow went from being the 15th best back in the NFL in 2003 to 48th last season. The fact that San Francisco's offensive line finished near the bottom of the league in every major statistical category didn't help his cause either. The only thing that could've made things worse for Barlow would've been playing for the Texans (see below).9. QB Chad Pennington, New York Jets2004 salary: $1.0M base, $18.0M signing bonus, $19.0M total, $5.0M cap value2005 base salary: $1.0MIt's not Chad Pennington's fault that he's out for the season with a rotator cuff injury. The problem, however, is that he signed a seven-year, $67 million contract extension in September 2004, will count $15 million against the salary cap in 2006, and there are no guarantees he'll return to the form he displayed during the 2002 season when he finished first in DPAR among quarterbacks and led the Jets to the AFC East title.Pennington's uncertain future, coupled with the fact that his 2006 cap charge is more than Matt Damon makes per movie, is enough to qualify him for this list.8. QB Aaron Brooks, New Orleans Saints2004 salary: $3.3M base, $0 signing bonus, $3.5M total, $5.4 M cap value2005 base salary: $5.5MHere's why Brooks, despite the occasional spectacular play, is overrated: In 2004, he led the league in "failed completes." These are passes that, despite being caught, do not achieve the number of yards needed to be considered a "successful play" according to our metrics (45 percent of needed yards on first down, 60 percent on second down, 100 percent on third down). This is why Brooks' raw yardage totals are always better than his actual value when it comes to winning. PROTRADE.com writer Mark Kamal also reminds us that last season Brooks led QBs in 1-yard TD runs while only half of his TD passes came from outside the 10-yard line. Consider as well that he had more sacks and turnovers than all but two NFL quarterbacks.Brooks will make $5.5 million this season in base salary ? good for fourth-best in the league ? but last season he ranked as 19th best, just ahead of Kyle Boller.7. LB LaVar Arrington, Washington Redskins2004 salary: $535K base, $11.3M signing bonus, $11.8M total, $5.6M cap value2005 base salary: $540KIn no time at all, LaVar Arrington has gone from being a star to being a non-factor in Washington. (Jamie Squire / Getty Images)Arrington has had more success throwing lavish parties ? and this includes the guy who was shot and wounded at a recent get-together ? than finding his way on the football field since signing a new deal. A knee injury limited Arrington to just four games last season and he's still not at full strength.Making matters worse are his accusations that the Redskins cheated him out of $6.5 million in bonus money when he signed his eight-year, $68 million contract extension in December 2003. It's probably a bad sign when you've got so much money you actually lose track of a couple million bucks only to realize later that your employer short-changed you. The two sides reached a settlement but there's still the question of whether Arrington will return to the form that made him one of the best outside linebackers in football a few seasons ago. (Having a coaching staff keep you on the bench certainly doesn't help your case.)6. CB Eric Warfield, Kansas City Chiefs2004 salary: $2.5M base, $0 signing bonus, $3.0M total, $3.7M cap value2005 base salary: $3.3MIn 2002, the Chiefs signed Warfield to a seven-year contract worth $27 million, including a $5 million signing bonus. Since then, the Chiefs' secondary has annually been one of the league's worst teams when it comes to giving up yardage to opposing No. 1 receivers. The fact that defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham prefers to leave his cornerbacks in man coverage certainly doesn't play to Warfield's strengths. But that hasn't been a problem so far in 2005 because of Warfield's four-game suspension for a DUI conviction.Warfield's base salary makes him the fifth-highest-paid cornerback in the league this season, which sounds a tad high for someone who could end up as the dime back. And just in case you need more proof that Warfield is overpaid, consider this: While under house arrest for a previous DUI conviction in 2001, his Martha Stewart-inspired tracking bracelet would occasionally go off when he strayed too far down one of the wings in his mansion.5. DL Warren Sapp, Oakland Raiders2004 salary: $660K base, $4.5M signing bonus, $5.2M total, $1.5M cap value2005 base salary: $765KSapp and Ted Washington might be a formidable duo at a Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, but the Raiders defensive line only registered seven sacks last season. In a 3-4 defense, the linemen should occupy blocks so that linebackers can make big plays, but Raiders linebackers recorded just 2 1/2 sacks in 2004. Sapp will only make $765,000 this season, but his $4.5 million signing bonus in 2004 coupled with his base salary jumping to $4.5 million next season means that the Raiders are probably looking for something more than a player who can only be used in obvious rushing situations, and as an occasional lead blocker in short-yardage situations.4. WR Charles Rogers, Detroit Lions2004 salary: $305K base, $5.3M signing bonus, $5.6M total, $3.6M cap value2005 base salary: $514KSome might argue that Charles Rogers could more accurately be described as a draft bust, but when you consider that he was taken second overall in 2003, and received a $14 million signing bonus ? more than No. 1 overall pick Carson Palmer ? it's a little easier to conclude that he's a two-fer: a draft bust and grossly overpaid.Rogers has had just as many touchdowns in his career (3) as he's had broken collarbones (2), and failed drug tests (1). And much like the Steelers are haunted by taking Gabe Rivera over Dan Marino, one of Matt Millen's many legacies could be passing on Andre Johnson in favor of Rogers (although Johnson might not consider playing with the other franchise quarterback from the 2002 draft an upgrade).3. K Mike Vanderjagt, Indianapolis Colts2004 salary: $535K base, $1.1M signing bonus, $1.6M total, $1.6M cap value2005 base salary: $1.8MThe Colts could find better ways to spend the money they are using on Mike Vanderjagt. (Andy Lyons / Getty Images)It's hard to argue with the year Vanderjagt had in 2003. He was a perfect 39-for-39 on field-goal tries, including three game-winners. But 2003 was more of an anomaly than the norm when you consider he made 82 percent of his attempts the season before, and only 80 percent last season. And here's something else to keep in mind: Vanderjagt is listed on the depth chart as a "kicker," not just "field-goal specialist," which means that he should also be responsible for kickoffs. In 2003 he averaged 60.2 yards per kickoff, which ranked 23rd. In 2004, when he shared the duties, he was even worse, averaging 58.1 yards per kickoff, which dropped him to 43rd.For the $1.8 million the Colts are paying Vanderjagt this season, they could sign a kickoff specialist and a field-goal kicker, have some money left over to get Edgerrin James some new gold fronts, and also not worry about the "idiot kicker" upsetting the star quarterback.2. CB Charles Woodson, Oakland Raiders2004 salary: $8.8M base, $0 signing bonus, $8.8M total, $8.8M cap value2005 base salary: $10.6MIf NFL statistics were based on the Stableford scoring system, the Raiders would have been the best defense in football last year. Unfortunately, NFL stats aren't. And the Raiders weren't. The secondary was the weakest part of a decidedly mediocre unit, and Woodson had the dubious honor of piling up nine penalties all by himself.He will make $10.5 million in base salary this season ? the highest in the league ? but Oakland's DVOA against opposing teams' No. 1 receivers only ranked 24th in the league. With the new chuck rule favoring the offense, shutdown corners are going the way of the dinosaur, which means that the Raiders might have been better off using the $10.5 million to address other needs. (Like maybe finding someone to spell the anti-Olsen twins: Washington and Sapp ? see above.)1. Houston Texans Offensive LineFirst, a little perspective on this unit. In Superman: The Movie, a teenage Clark Kent punted a football out of his high school stadium. If he played behind this line, it wouldn't matter how far he could kick the ball because he would lead the league in punts blocked. That's how inept this bunch has been since 2002 ? just ask quarterback David Carr.In 2004, the Texans had the third-highest total payroll in the NFL ($97.5 million), and 19 percent of it was devoted to one of the worst offensive lines in football. Carr might have had more success stacking the $12 million between him and the defense and praying that the sight of free money would at least allow him to complete a five-step drop.After not being able to lure Orlando Pace away from the Rams, the Texans settled on former Saints left tackle, Victor Riley. Left guard Chester Pitts is a penalty machine who led the league with 21 penalties in 2003 and then was tied for second with 14 penalties in 2004. Steve McKinney, Zach Wiegert, and Todd Wade round out a bunch that has given up 33 sacks through six games this season.Domanick Davis, Vernand Morency, or even Clark Kent won't make much of a difference in the running game as long as there is no one to block for them.</div>Next time u gotta put the article in quotes if ur gonna post it cuz it's not you who wrote it. -JHair
     
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    Peyton Manning is paid too much IMO.
     
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    "1. Houston Texans Offensive Line"lmao...
     
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    They're all overpaid IMO.
     
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    Terrell Owens is overpaid
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kyle Orton 18 @ Oct 27 2005, 11:50 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Terrell Owens is overpaid</div> I agree. He is my choice he is overpaid.
     
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    Kevan Barlow is overpaid IMO. Not that good as he used to be and you should only pay your players a lot of money when they're dominating, and well, he isn't. I agreed TO is being overpaid and a few others.
     
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    How is TO overpaid? He's one if not THE best receiver in the game right now. If anything he is underpaid and this coming from a non-Eagles fan.The guy makes plays, without him the Eagles aren't even contending in the NFC east right now, what the hell are you guys smoking.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sUpEr21cHaRgEd @ Nov 1 2005, 10:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>How is TO overpaid? He's one if not THE best reciever in the game right now. If anything he is underpaid and this coming from a non-Eagles fan.The guy makes plays, without him the Eagles aren't even contending in the NFC east right now, what the hell are you guys smoking.</div> AGREED. TO deserves more $$$ than he is making...
     
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    He can't shut his mouth and he should be having like uh 10 TD? He is a big crybaby. I don't care what anybody say but I just don't like him, You could say I think he is underpaid because I hate his guts but meh.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xpostxscript @ Nov 1 2005, 10:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>He can't shut his mouth and he should be having like uh 10 TD? He is a big crybaby. I don't care what anybody say but I just don't like him, You could say I think he is underpaid because I hate his guts but meh.</div> he would have more TDs if his QB wasnt HURTEN like crazy from a sports hernia man, SOMEONES gotta throw the pigskin to him, and McNabb is doing his best to get the ball aroudn the feild, TO can't pass to himself, he's made HUGE numbers w/ the passes thrown to him, and the ones thrown to him that he doesnt catch are usually WAY above his head or right at his feet [​IMG]
     
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    thers alot of over paid players
     
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    They play a game much of us would love to play for free for millions of dollars. Who's to say who isn't overpayed and who is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CWebb4 @ Oct 27 2005, 11:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>They're all overpaid IMO.</div> Amen to that.I agree 100%
     
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    to the person who said TO is overpaid is crazy. He is the BEST WR in the league. Better than Moss yes. Moss yea hes fast and he can jump up and get the free ball but TO can run people over and run just as fast as Moss. TO is not overpaid he deserves more yes but I hope he dont get it because i really dont like his antics and what he did this past offseason but w/e hes an Eagle and hes helpin us win so i aint mad.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DMac5Philly @ Nov 2 2005, 12:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>run just as fast as Moss.</div> [​IMG] Moss is BETTER than TO
     
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    How can you say T.O. is overpaid? Do you know where the Eagles would be without him? Lets go back to last years Super Bowl shall we? McNabb was the one who choked not T.O. T.O. came back from a broken leg faster than most players would and had a fenominal game against a great Pats defense. So where would the Eagles be without T.O.? Nowhere. The Eagles have no other receivers except for an up and coming TE. They also don't have a running game which means they always rely on the pass. [​IMG]
     
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    This is old but umm... I'd like to add one more player...SHAWN SPRINGS
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Nov 1 2005, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xpostxscript @ Nov 1 2005, 10:33 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> He can't shut his mouth and he should be having like uh 10 TD? He is a big crybaby. I don't care what anybody say but I just don't like him, You could say I think he is underpaid because I hate his guts but meh.</div> he would have more TDs if his QB wasnt HURTEN like crazy from a sports hernia man, SOMEONES gotta throw the pigskin to him, and McNabb is doing his best to get the ball aroudn the feild, TO can't pass to himself, he's made HUGE numbers w/ the passes thrown to him, and the ones thrown to him that he doesnt catch are usually WAY above his head or right at his feet [​IMG]</div>You try throwing with a sports hernia. Any other player wouldve had surgery right away. Plus how can you count a season that he was suspended in? He had 6 td's in 8 games which means he was going toward another TO season.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SickVick7 @ Nov 3 2005, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you say T.O. is overpaid? Do you know where the Eagles would be without him? Lets go back to last years Super Bowl shall we? McNabb was the one who choked not T.O. T.O. came back from a broken leg faster than most players would and had a fenominal game against a great Pats defense. So where would the Eagles be without T.O.? Nowhere. The Eagles have no other receivers except for an up and coming TE. They also don't have a running game which means they always rely on the pass. [​IMG]</div>The Eagles were in the playoffs before TO. Your making it sound like the Eagles were the worst team in the NFL and that TO was our savior and he made us a contender. The eagles were just pieces away from a 'ship. They even won 2 playoff games with TO out. Eagles are going to run the ball more and you forgot to mention Pinkston and Reggie Brown who are very capable of catching balls especially from a pro-bowler.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Jul 28 2006, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is old but umm... I'd like to add one more player...SHAWN SPRINGS</div>Honestly, not because I don't like the Redskins but you're right...Shawn Springs!
     

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