With the #7 pick, the Portland Trail Blazers select....

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Ok, another Nurk in the lineup but more mobile. And we get bigger with Jeremi Grant at SF.

    Now we can go Dame/Simons with Hart, Grant, Randle, and Nurk.

    With the proper scheme, that is a very good defensive team. And still very dangerous at the offensive end as well.

    I think that would be a very interesting team to watch. It has to be better than any other team we've put around Dame.
     
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  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Along with Nas, Winslow and Watford for depth, plus possibly an MLE guy like Bamba or Warren or Smith.
     
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    It'd be intriguing for sure but idk, I would probably target someone other than Randle. I’m also a big Watford guy too, and think he could be good enough to start. He’s like the opposite of Randle. Not as talented, but makes so many winning plays.
     
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    Sounds like a solid backup. We have to understand that we're not going get the cream of the crop. Anybody we get will be a bit of a gamble.
     
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    Grant > Randle for the Blazers. I wouldn't do either of the trades.
     
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    if the Blazers can Parley the #7 into Grant and Randle they did well as long as trading the pick is the gauge

    same way if was 7 + EBEC + filler for Collins and Grant

    or for Grant and Christian Wood

    again, if the Pistons won't accept a 16th or 17th pick for Grant they can fuck off
     
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    I think the pick is getting traded. What else can we get that is better than those 2 players?

    Because of we can get more talent and better balanced than that sign me up.
     
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    So trade 11 back for 16/17 and then swap it for Grant?

    Sounds good.
     
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    No way can the Blazers afford both. And I don't think Blazers fans understand how much they're going to hate Randle. Knicks fans want him gone for a reason.

    Trading 7 for another lotto pick + Grant is fine. They should be shooting for Ayton and Bridges. I would rather have Collins than Randle.
     
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    I'm actually a Randle fan. He has the ability to be a secondary facilitator that we've been saying Dame needs in a forward for a while now. He hit's open threes. He showed the season before last and his season with AD that he can be very good and versatile on defense.

    I honestly think Grant and Randle would be great together but Randle's contract becomes pretty punitive after this season. I also wonder if it would hurt negotiations with Grant because Grant needs to average about 25M per season on his next deal and Randle is well above that.

    My first pick is 7 for Wood and 17 then 17 and probably a little more for Grant. The thing is that none of Grant, Wood or Collins has the ability to facilitate that Randle does. I think we can be successful without that though now that we have an offense that actually requires players to move when they don't have the ball and calls for the ball moving as well.

    If we go into next season with Dame, Ant, Grant, Wood, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise and a legit backup C we'll be able to make the playoffs and have a good showing... we might even be a contender if Ant can be better on both ends than CJ, if Dame really is the best he's ever been and Grant and Wood take on the roles we need from them. I see that starting lineup as having an obvious first option but the other four guys are all the second option, which is nice from guys on that level.
     
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    Collins and Grant and no one will bitch about the 7th pick. On the other hand though I think NY should give us a pick to take Julius.
     
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    What sort of defensive scheme can cover for 3 mediocre to poor defenders? To be clear, I feel Grant and Hart are both pretty good but I'm being generous calling any of the other 3 starters or Ant mediocre.

    STOMP
     
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    Yes but in 5 years you’ll retcon it and say, “well we could’ve had Randle + (insert list of all these really good players that could’ve been drafted at 11) instead of Grant”. I’d rather take at least one swing in this draft.
     
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    Why is everyone obsessed with DeAndre Ayton.
    Paying a big man 30 million is not a recipe for a championship.
     
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    To an extent, I'm with you. But at 23 years old and he's a center who won't get played off the floor -- I'd be most ecstatic to get him. Lavine, not so much.
     
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    I’d take John Collins out of all these “rumors”, might as well go full circle on those 3 wasted 1st rounders. That’s my defining Olshey moment.
     
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    As I outlined within another thread:

    Before the draft starts:
    Portland trades #7, Nasir Little and Bledsoe to
    Detroit for #5 and Grant

    draft night blockbuster:
    Portland trades #5 and #36 to
    New York for Randal and #11

    Assuming deals are in place for re-signing Nurkic and Ant.

    will Phoenix take Nurk, #11 and 2025 Buck’s #1
    For Ayton in a sign & trade?

    Dame
    Ant
    Grant
    Randal
    Ayton
     
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  19. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    He won’t get played off the floor? 17 minutes in a game 7. Hmmm

    Not opposed to him in theory but am opposed to him at the price he thinks he should get.

    He may not get played off but he isn’t really a difference maker either IMO.
     
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    Julius Randle sucks.

    Watching him and Nurk lumber around letting dudes do layup drills all game would make me puke.
     

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