It's too convoluted, expensive, slow, and unreliable. And it makes the opposite side afraid of a database of gun owners. So they will never support it. Just mark the ID of every dangerous person or make a searchable website with restricted people's ID numbers. I'm good with either way, and they are about 100X more likely to gain support of republicans.
You mentioned red herrings in regards to AR's earlier, but I feel like 3d printed guns are a major red herring on your end. Obviously they need to be regulated somehow, but how many shootings actually happen where one is involved?
No. 21 seems reasonable to me. In fact, making the adult age of 18 doesn't make sense to me. The prefrontal cortex doesn't attach until around 25, so kids under that age have trouble thinking about long term consequences of their actions. And if we are going to restrict guns, we should probably be targeting hand guns, as they are used to in the vast majority of gun deaths.
3d printed and homemade guns only become a problem if we were somehow able to drastically limit the number of mass manufactured guns in the US. Which I don't think is possible. Some people seem to think it's possible to restrict the number of guns enough to make a significant difference, so that is where the homemade black market argument comes in.
We are on the same page on this. If you are under 25 and want to shoot guns, join the army. If they don't want you, you don't need a gun. If you want to hunt, move to Alaska.
I am all for hunting, especially among trained people with no violent tendencies. I am even fine with kids hunting with responsible people. This is a great opportunity to learn and practice how to handle firearms responsibly. And in my opinion, we will always have firearms in this country, so the more responsibly trained individuals we have the better.
But are there statistics that show it's making a difference in Oregon having the hang gun ownership at 21yrs old? And yes, I'm fucking with you a little. Just trying to point out that your argument about only using statistics to dictate law and action isn't necessarily the correct tact. Sure, statistics have a role in the discussion but should not be the only deciding factor for action.
Agreed. The NRA used to be great on responsible gun ownership, training and education, but they have been a horrible organization for the last 20 years at least.
School shootings have dramatically spiked this decade, data shows https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...icefeed&cvid=5e2e9f5cf40e44d4a0e0b6e91414a098 School shootings are now averaging 168 per year. That is 3x what the 2010's was averaging! If our government can't act at all, none of them deserve to have their job.
'Ted Cruz, F-ck You!': Anger Erupts at Gun-Loving GOP After Mass Slaughter in Texas Democratic lawmakers and the father of a 14-year-old killed in a previous school shooting were among those who unleashed on Republicans. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...pts-gun-loving-gop-after-mass-slaughter-texas
I get your point, but the emotional energy (not to mention political) of this topic has swung the conversation so far from where it can actually do any good that I don't know how else to point it out.
I’m not understanding why you think that all these shooters don’t have - healthcare - education Making sure everyone has access to healthcare and education is terrific. And you can give that to this kid, Adam Lanza, Dylan Roof, Columbine shooters….they went to school. They had parents with healthcare. They had homes. Are we having homeless, uneducated, uninsured shooting up schools that I don’t know about?
'You'll Learn Why': GOP Lawmaker Threatens Biden If Democrats Try to Take Away Guns "Just another day in Florida with Randy Fine threatening the President of the United States after children and adults were shot and murdered at a school in Texas." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...reatens-biden-if-democrats-try-take-away-guns
Again, I don't see how you can or should remove emotion from this topic less than 24hrs after a classroom of kids was shot up. Maybe we should all see the crime photos of that classroom. Maybe more emotion is what is called for because we keep doing nothing and that is not working.
