Damian Lillard likes tweet that suggests the Trail Blazers should send No. 7 pick for Lu Dort

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  1. HoopsFanAZ

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    Simon’s ceiling is up there.
    Dort is a good defensive player. Dort vs. Hart is arguable.
    7 for Dort + 12 isn’t horrible, theoretically. Practically, Dort isn’t a SF any more than Norman Powell. As a back-up guard, he’s a baller.
     
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    Then no, I'm not interested. Would prefer to get a long SF and a PF. We need another player with All Star pedigree... 2 would be great.
     
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    Dame included Dort as one of the 3 best defenders in the league in his mind. Not outrageous for him to want him.

    We would still need a star on our squad for Dame. Grant and Dort wouldn't be bad, if we had another pick that we were able to use on some upside.....

    But Grant and Dort keep us in purgatory.
     
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    Neither Dort nor Grant have star potential, so giving up that opportunity at 7 gets us right back where we started. Not good enough or bad enough to be anything but average
     
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    Yes. I wouldn't trade the 7th pick for Josh Hart either.
     
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    Read a good chunk of those comments and OKC fans think the trade has a chance because they say Dort is overrated by others and they’re pretty much trying to find a sucker dumb enough to do that trade.
     
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    Not for my team.
    The ability to do something … and the ability to do something that leads to a championship are very different things.
     
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    I wouldn't either. Doesn't mean Dort is trash.

    Not sure anyone would want Dort straight up for 7.
     
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    Dort and Grant are great pieces for a team with 2-3 stars on it as final pieces. They are not, however, star pieces
     
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    If the idea is to get really good value on a sign and trade for Ant then I like the addition of Dort. If the idea is to start Dame, Ant and Dort then I do not like the addition of Dort.

    Trade 7 to OKC for Dort, 12 and I'd actually want 30. Draft Sochan at 12. Sign and trade Ant to the Pistons for Grant.

    I think Dame, Dort, Grant, Sochan, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise, pick 30 (backup C like Orlando Robinson or Koloko) and pick 36 (Terry or Nembhard for backup PG) would be a brilliant rotation and would put us on the path to contending. That's a fucking Chauncey Billups team.
     
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    Similar physical players but Dort is no carbon copy as yet anyway. imo
    I actually like Bane better than Dort.
     
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    I will continue to repeat what I have said for years:

    You do not trade first round picks for role players unless you are at a championship level and your first round pick is 27-30.

    You especially do not trade lottery picks for role players.

    The only acceptable player to trade a top 10 pick for is a star. Someone that is either a current all-star or someone that is likely to be an all-star going forward.

    Dort is not either one of these.
    Neither is Grant.
    Neither is OG.
    Randle is not likely to be an all star level player again in my mind (one season aberration aside).


    Siakam? Yes. Star. Give the #7 pick for him.
    Collins? Maybe. Getting closer to “future all star territory” here.
     
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    Enough with the 5'3" SF. Dort is the proud owner of a -1.5 OBM, -0.7 DBM and -0.1 VORP. In fact, he is negative across the board the last 2 seasons. Just say 'NO' to moving a Lottery pick for him for the opportunity to move down and trade for Grant.

    'Mediocrity', thy name is anything to do with this.
     
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    Trade Simons & Nurkic for Ayton?
     
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    It's not about stars, Freshtown. We had the worst D in the league last year. The only reason we contend is if Dame is surrounded by elite defenders. Not 2 or 3. All 4 must be sensational defenders. Dort is a great defender. Exactly the kind of guard you want in the lineup with Dame. He's also only 23 years old. Look at what the Lakers did last year, they traded a bunch of "role players" as you put them for a STAR point guard. It killed their season. Complementary players to Dame is what we need. Not just some random star. OG would be great next to Dame. Grant is good if both Dort and OG on the team too. Defense Defense Defense. If the "Star" isn't an elite defender, not interested.
     
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    But KingSpeed says I don’t know how good he is.

    Neither do analytics apparently.
     
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    He wouldn't play SF. He'd play SG alongside Dame. Those stats you posted mean nothing because his team was specifically trying to lose. I can't think of a better 23 year old defensive guard to put next to Dame.
     
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    I don't know. Only if we feel Ayton can defend better than Nurk. I say it's worth it because of how young Ayton is. We need to build for present and future. Surround Dame with good young defenders.
     

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