Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by THE HCP, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    It is now.
    You can’t change every discussion to what you want it to be which you happen to do all the time, and not allow the conversation to take its course for everyone else.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. That's why people think it's silly to blame a weapon.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Huh, I'd never heard the term OTF knife before. And I own one!

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    Yep, Out The Front
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't think anyone thinks that guns make up their minds to kill a bunch of people, just like fentanyl doesn't make up it's mind to kill people, and cars, choking hazards, steep dropoffs don't, etc. etc.

    But yet we do what we can to minimize the damage from other dangerous things. Even though they are just things that exist, and through no fault of their own humans misuse them.

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    Speed limits and seatbelts as well as drunk driving laws have helped.
    Pretty sure some restrictions on guns would help as well.
     
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    Lol. And I can remind them that's not what was being discussed...
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    A gun would likely not have helped in that situation. A knife used properly in close quarters will beat a gun in a holster nearly every time.

    Nice try though...
     
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    And nobody in here is suggesting we do nothing... In fact I've suggested quite a few solutions...

    In fact, we've done exactly that in this country by banning the purchase of assault weapons without a special permit that basically requires you to sign all of your rights to privacy over to the ATF.

    Yet here we are starting the same political attacks we've already addressed once again.

    I'm game.
     
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    We have restrictions on guns. We've been discussing the effectiveness of those restrictions as well as other proposed restrictions.

    Not sure why you're starting with this garbage again...

    But again, knives are used to kill about 3 times as many people per year in this country as all rifles.

    Sooo...
     
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    Uhm, I neither said nor implied that you suggested we do nothing. I was responding merely to your suggestion that people blame guns. People don't blame guns. People blame the inadequate restrictions on guns.

    Seems like you are just looking for a fight. Shall we say cap pistols at 50 paces, Mt Tabor, dawn?

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    Right. The complaint has been about restricting a gun that kills far less than 1/3 as many people as knives... And dramatically less than 0.1% of all gun deaths.

    So again... We've focused on the tool. The focusing on the tool seems to be misplaced at best...

    Tabor it is.
     
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    Ha!
    You watch too many You Tube videos.
    My gun beats your knife 99 out of 100 times.
    Sorry.
     
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    And we need more restrictions on guns.
    Thanks.
     
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    Easier said than done. Luckily data shows that's probably not necessary, or as effective as other means.
     
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    Not in close quarters and if the person with the knife is the aggressor. As was the situation in question.

    If you choose to shoot before being attacked, of course you stand a much batter chance. But then you're at much higher risk of being found guilty of murder.
     

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