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And with the Timberwolves he was a draft bust on a max contract.

 

Going from a #1 option on a bad team to a 3rd or 4th option on a great team isn't the same as we would need from these guys.

We don't even have a 2nd player in the ballpark of a Wiggins and Curry is better than our best player.

 

The twolves are a mess of an organization.

 

King reportedly offering Barnes and another ending contract for Collins.
Suns maybe involved in getting OG for Ayton.
Heat and 76'ers trying to get Grant.

Blazers......bridesmaid again?

 

For once, I wouldn’t mind it.
As one poster once said…

“Not. Swayed.”

None of those players move the needle enough for me to give up #7. Id rather have an outside shot at a legit star.

 

Supposedly, the Kings offer would be getting Collins w/o giving up their pick. They have better ending contracts to give up than we do.

 

I don’t think that’s a better deal than atl getting the 7th pick? They’re gonna get expiring money from us to make the deal work anyway

 

Yes and that’s why I assume we would have to give up #7 (to outbid anyone). No thanks.

 

I really like the Kings / Hawks idea for both teams.
They Suns / Raptors idea is also very intriguing for both teams.

Since you are hearing some things.... PLEASE tell me that #7 is NOT on the table for Grant.

 

That’s the issue with having minimal assets. When your one (and only) high value asset is #7 it’s hard to get equal value. In a bidding war you’ll have to (imo) significantly overpay for (imo) marginal upgrades.

 

Unless we can get Grant for a pick ~20 (7 = 9+20+Langford) and the '25 Bucks pick. Then use Grant to swap with Collins.

 

It’s the Jerami Grant conundrum. If our pick was #18 and they wanted a pick and a future first or player it’s a lot more tolerable.

But when your pick is #7 you essentially have to say “lol, no. Not giving you a FRP this year”.

Hawks, same thing:
“Well teams can give us what we want now… but if you throw #7 in… I think we can figure it out”.

 

It is not.....at this time. I can't believe 'Sell Low' Joe would do that, but if everything else falls apart, would he start to feel desperate to get something done? I pray not. I just don't think they can get a lot done. Neil put this organization in a massive hole, and then SLJ (while getting us out of contract hell) got precious little in return and really messed up the NOP pick nonsense.

I don't think they can get to contender status in the next couple of years and to mortgage the franchises future to try to do so for Dame would be an exercise in futility to me. It's why, while I don't want to trade Dame, I think it might be in the best interest of the franchise to get the most that you can, and begin moving forward, instead of desperately trying to go the route of Rumpelstilskin.

 

I would easily combine the two. I'd give the Hawks Bledsoe and 7 for Collins and 16 then give 16 and the Bucks pick to the Pistons for Grant. If I had to sweeten the Hawks deal with 36, they could get me to do that.

I think Grant and Collins would be the best forward tandem we've had since Nic and LA and I think they're more complementary to Dame and Ant than even Nic and LA would have been back then. With a bench of Hart, Nas, Justice and the TPMLE along with the youngsters that'd have to be the best roster Dame's had.

 

Sharpe > Grant > Collins

Stars will help Damian come closest to winning a championship. Is Sharpe isn't there, then okay. Not totally against this deal.

 

Why do I get the feeling those same people who are undervaluing Grant and Collins will also be pining for them once they're traded to other teams on draft night?

 

Dame
Ant
Grant
Collins
Nurk

gets smoked in the playoffs in my opinion, so really not interested. We would be a treadmill team (again). There’s not a single elite defender in the group.

 

Depends on what they are traded for.

Just like Wood. While he isn't a star, he is a more talented player than most of the guys we have. For what the Mavs got him for, I would have pounced on any deals like that.

 

Why do I get the feeling those same people who are overvaluing Grant and Collins will also be the ones bitching about the blazers for not using the #7 pick 4 years for now?

“if we didn’t trade our best FRP in years for (overvalued player) we could’ve drafted (x)… and our team would look like (y). Fuck the Vulcans!”

 

But Sharpe isn't greater than Grant and Collins together. Also, Collins has untapped potential. Two seasons ago he was 23 and people were talking about him as an up and coming all star. I don't think there's a leader on that roster to keep someone like Collins going when his touches go down... I do think Dame can do that for him and I think in Chauncey's offense his touches would go up even sharing them with Dame, Ant, Grant and Nurk. I think a healthy Dame combined with Chauncey's system will keep athletic forwards like Collins and Grant engaged.