What player do you want to get with the 7th pick?

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Who you want?

  1. OG Anunoby

    8.9%
  2. Dyson Daniels

    4.4%
  3. Shaedon Sharpe

    57.8%
  4. Jalen Duren

    13.3%
  5. Jeremy Sochan

    4.4%
  6. Other

    11.1%
  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    dame will be as old in two years as Curry is now-- think he'll age very gracefully. And by that time, I am hoping Ant climbs closer to all star level to lessen his load.

    Depending on how the sale of the franchise goes, if we're competitive, i see the new owner paying what it takes to keep the team together. And remember the cap will spike again in two years, so the 25-30 mil deals will not seem as bad then as they do now.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Lot of hoping here
     
  3. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Changing my vote to Dyson Daniels because I felt sorry for him. Also, with Grant, we're kind of overstocked with forwards, so Sochan wouldn't get the time he needs/deserves.
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    what do you see as a ceiling for this team if we move Hart + 7 for OG instead?
     
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    Well it appears you think OG brings us to contender status.

    Even with OG I highly doubt we are contenders.

    So our best bet is for Dame to take on the “CP3” suns role. Hope whoever we draft “pops”.

    Dame - slightly worse
    Ant - Better
    Nas - Better
    Hart - Better
    Grant - Same or slightly worse
    Whoever we draft - Much better, possibly all star
    Nurk - probably the same

    Your essentially betting on whoever we draft being good enough to make up for whatever (slight) decline Dame has while also allowing other young guys to develop and possibly making up for whoever we lose due to salary. Also, I highly doubt Dame’s decline is going to be as great as you imply. Shooting doesn’t just disappear. He will be able to pull up from 40 when he’s 40 with no issue.

    Additionally, whoever we lose due to salary, if we are smart we will trade at the very least.
     
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    Predator The Godfather

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    We don’t need a starting level player.
    We need an all star level player if we are to be a contender.
     
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    Daniels huge upside and fills a position/defensive stopper position (potentially). Just screams as that glue type player who doesn’t need shots to impact game. Love guys like this
     
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    So if we could get OG for EBEC and 7 I'd do that. If it's any more than that I'd much rather trade back to 9 and 20 ideally or 9 and 25. I don't know for sure who I'd take at 20 but if he's still available at 25 I'd take Dalen Terry. For sure I would take Sochan at 9 and I think he'd be there. If the Spurs aren't interested in trading up then I would see who falls to us and either take BPA or shop that player around and get the best players possible for them if I can find someone with close to the same upside without giving up any of our guys of value.

    I'm really high on Sochan both immediately and his future, for me he might be BPA at 7 but if another team places a higher value on Sharpe or Daniels if they fall to us then we take that higher value from them if it comes in the form of a player or players we think have better value now and in the future. I'm also pretty high on Terry immediately but don't know if he has that high of a ceiling.

    We could trade back to 13 and 15 and just take the best players that fall to us. Duren could be there, Dieng or Branham might, Ogbaji almost certainly will and there's a very high chance that Mark Williams will.
     
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    KOC: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/

    The Blazers are planning to use the seventh pick to target other proven players around the league, such as OG Anunoby. But if they keep the pick, most executives expect Portland to choose from center Jalen Duren, wing Shaedon Sharpe, or guard Dyson Daniels. Front offices expect Jusuf Nurkic to return to the Blazers, so drafting Duren wouldn’t address a short-term need. Sharpe isn’t ready to play at the NBA level yet. Daniels, at 6-foot-6, is a logical choice since he’s only 19 but is ready to play NBA defense. With sensational passing vision, he can complement Dame and Anfernee Simons in the backcourt. The Blazers have experimented with a number of big guards next to Lillard and CJ McCollum in the past. The Evan Turner experiment failed, but the idea of Turner was sound: a big playmaker who can defend multiple positions. Daniels could be everything the Blazers need and much more.
     
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    I think Chauncey really wants Duren, but 7 is too spicy for him -- hence all of the rumors of trading back or getting a pick from Charlotte... A draft night of Sharpe/Daniels, Hayward, Duren would be a very good night, indeed...
     
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    Duren not addressing a short-term need is completely wrong.

    With Grant, have now have 5 forwards and Hart who can play forward.

    We have 6 guards (counting Brandon Williams).

    We have ZERO legit backup centers.
     
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    The biggest need of all is STAR PLAYER. Like top 20 at least. Throw out all the other conditions please.
     
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    Whomever wrote this didn't say how OG Anunoby addresses a need. OG doesn't address a need. He's not a STAR and not a center/forward hybrid or center. So take the BPA in the draft.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I'm debating 7 vs OG only.

    In the average case, probably similar ceilings but different time horizons. OG now, 7th in a few years. I understand the want to gamble on 7 being more than OG, and certainly that's possible, so the absolute ceiling may be a bit higher down the road. But it's not guaranteed. There's also a good chance the player is worse than OG, in which case we don't even reach that ceiling at all.

    So if it's 7 vs OG, I am absolutely fine picking OG. If it doesn't work out you can hit the reset button sooner, and a two way wing who is <30 in age will still have good trade value down the road.
     
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    that is absolutely a fair opinion. But i'm referring more to what you think the ceiling for the team is with OG vs the ceiling for the team with 7. Do you see a team with Dame/Ant/OG/Grant/Nurk being a contender to fit this timeline you mentioned earlier?
     
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    I want Duren plain and simple -- Nurk is not reliable and even if Duren has legit BUST concerns his upside could be HUGE
     
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    This is exactly where I'm at. If it's OG for 7 and Bledsoe... I'm down but that's the most I'd give up and I know it's playing it safe but OG still has possible upside too. I don't think that's good enough for Toronto and I'm fine with that, so I've moved on but if that was a deal that still happened it would be a pleasant surprise, if we gave them more than that I would be disappointed.
     
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    Not even a courtesy chuckle! Tough crowd!
     
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    He also fills an urgent need - Big Ass Backup Center. with mobility included.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    If it was a year like this year, I think we could have made the finals. We absolutely could have made the WCF. Dallas made it with Jalen Brunson as their second best player. And once you're in the final 4 anything can happen.

    I get that the absolute ceiling with the 7th pick is higher, but it would take a perfect storm of luck to reach that ceiling in the right timeframe. The chances of that happening are probably worse than getting circumstantially lucky with a pseudo-contender. So I'd be pretty content taking the latter route, particularly because I'm not interested in being a play-in team for the next two years while we wait for that pick to develop, and we don't even know what the result will be.
     

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