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Which non Blazers door are we at when free agency starts? What’s your guess as to who we are eyeballing?
 
Well I hope something good happens. Just not holding my breath
 
I like Jalen Smith as well. All the talent is there if he can just put it together. Seems like the high upside type swing that Cronin likes.
 
MickZagger said:
I like Jalen Smith as well. All the talent is there if he can just put it together. Seems like the high upside type swing that Cronin likes.
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One of Bamba, Hartenstein or Smith. Probably expensive in that order as well. Bamba...MLE? Hartenstein, TPMLE, and Smith might be BAE or less?
 
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TBpup said:
One of Bamba, Hartenstein or Smith. Probably expensive in that order as well. Bamba...MLE? Hartenstein, TPMLE, and Smith might be BAE or less.
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Hartenstein seems to be getting a lot of attention. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get significantly more than the TPMLE.
 
TBpup said:
One of Bamba, Hartenstein or Smith. Probably expensive in that order as well. Bamba...MLE? Hartenstein, TPMLE, and Smith might be BAE or less?
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TB I'd be surprised of Smith went for the BAE, I think he's closer to the full MLE, was really playing well after the trade to Indy, he's my fave big target
 
Blazinaway said:
TB I'd be surprised of Smith went for the BAE, I think he's closer to the full MLE, was really playing well after the trade to Indy, he's my fave big target
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He may.....just going off of some of the production/projected salary estimates. Then again, those same estimates have Ingles making more than Ant.....which won't happen. I think Smith has quite a bit of untapped potential and was just starting to show it when he got some run in IND at the end of last season. 13.4/7.6 with a block in just under 25 mpg. Also shot .373 from '3' in those 22 games. Not a huge sample size and certainly better than anything else he had ever produced, but it's an encouraging sign.
 
TBpup said:
He may.....just going off of some of the production/projected salary estimates. Then again, those same estimates have Ingles making more than Ant.....which won't happen. I think Smith has quite a bit of untapped potential and was just starting to show it when he got some run in IND at the end of last season. 13.4/7.6 with a block in just under 25 mpg. Also shot .373 from '3' in those 22 games. Not a huge sample size and certainly better than anything else he had ever produced, but it's an encouraging sign.
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Plus he is only 22 and at the age a lot of bigs start "getting it", he's my fave target as a PF/C, if we could get him for 7-9 mil per IMO it would be a steal. Also, would help immediately and fits both the Dame and non-Dame "younger" timeline
 
Okay after digging deeper we need to sign Hartenstein. His future wife would be a good addition to our sidelines

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I think we have one glaring need and it's at backup C, so I hope that's addressed early but not necessarily with anything more than the vet min. Now unlike Hartenstein and Bamba, Jalen Smith definitely has played at PF effectively in the league so he would give us a lot of flexibility, if he comes in and lights the world on fire while Grant shows in training camp that he's able to guard guys like Ant or even Dame out in space/on the perimeter and Smith shoes he can keep up with guys like Justise and Josh maybe we have our starting PF that can slide up to C. So I think he's the only one... even though he's the least proven and possibly the one demanding the least, that I would be OK spending the full MLE on. I don't want close to 30M dedicated to two guys who can only play one position.

I hope that rumored Ant 4/80 deal gets announced right away so if one of the teams vying for Brunson doesn't extend an offer sheet that makes the deal worse for us.

I think that there is a deal out there that Joe sees as a big splash otherwise I don't think he could have been so bold as to say we aren't good enoug, have to get better and are going to take it to the limit. I think he could have committed to doing everything he can but would have chosen some less demonstrative language so I think after the blitz of announcements about new deals being reached that there might be a trade that Joe sees as a large piece of the puzzle, it could be just Thybulle, it could be Collins or it could be something all of us would see as a big splash. If it was for the right guy it would be fantastic if by the end of the day we had guaranteed the Bulls our pick in 2024 and had three less future first round picks.

Exciting times! Go Blazers!
 
Jalen Smith will get a lot of attention. He will get the full MLE from someone. I am still confused about whether or not we have it available. If FA starts today how does the league know how much we are signing Nurk and Ant for? Didn't someone say we could not spend over 31 million on those two if we wanted to use the full MLE? Can we backload one of those contracts in order to do so?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Jalen Smith will get a lot of attention. He will get the full MLE from someone. I am still confused about whether or not we have it available. If FA starts today how does the league know how much we are signing Nurk and Ant for? Didn't someone say we could not spend over 31 million on those two if we wanted to use the full MLE? Can we backload one of those contracts in order to do so?
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Those contracts and order of operation are important. Also, we need to move a couple smaller contracts out like Didi, Keon, and then of course Bledsoe. That will help.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Jalen Smith will get a lot of attention. He will get the full MLE from someone. I am still confused about whether or not we have it available. If FA starts today how does the league know how much we are signing Nurk and Ant for? Didn't someone say we could not spend over 31 million on those two if we wanted to use the full MLE? Can we backload one of those contracts in order to do so?
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By my count, if they re-sign Nurk to 68/4 and Ant to 80/4 as speculated, and waive Bledsoe and just eat the 3.9M, they'll have 12 players under contract and about 19M space under the apron. If they want to go full MLE, I see no reason why they can't.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Jalen Smith will get a lot of attention. He will get the full MLE from someone. I am still confused about whether or not we have it available. If FA starts today how does the league know how much we are signing Nurk and Ant for? Didn't someone say we could not spend over 31 million on those two if we wanted to use the full MLE? Can we backload one of those contracts in order to do so?
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It's not about whether they know how much we have, it's what we are allowed to do after using the full MLE. Using it hard caps us at the tax apron. So using it first, using it last, timing doesn't really matter. It' all about where our final salary lands.
 
Kyle Anderson

Alternatives;
Otto Porter Jr
Jalen Smith
Isaiah Hartenstein
TJ Warren
Austin Rivers
DeMarcus Cousins
Robin Lopez
 
illmatic99 said:
Batum
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Don't see any chance at this; Clippers can give him about $10 million per year as early bird free agent. For same money he'd rather live in LA and doesn't like that we traded him away. If we could offer him much more than LAC maybe he would've considered this.
 
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