Free Agent Gary Payton II to the Blazers

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  1. Bingo Bango

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    Guards who play defense are not hard to find, especially if you only want 7 points a game from them.
     
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    in a vacuum, Payton is an interesting unconventional player who has a fairly elite ability to disrupt an opposing offense with hustle and anticipation.

    but the Blazer roster isn't a vacuum (insert jokes there). Portland is now paying 80M/year for three guards under 6'3. That's olshey-level imbalance, especially considering the investment of a #7 pick in Sharpe

    right now:

    PG - Dame/Ant
    SG - Ant/Hart/Payton/Sharpe/Johnson/Louzada
    SF - Hart/Little/Grant/Payton/Sharpe/Winslow/Johnson/Louzada
    PF - Grant/Winslow/Watford/Brown/Little
    C - Watford

    coach - Billups
    GM - Hard-Cap

    Wing - Hart/Grant/Payton/Little/Sharpe/Winslow/Johnson/Brown/Louzada

    the power of the NBA is at Wing...two-way all-star level talent at wing. Portland's best wing is either Hart or Grant. Portland's continued weakness at wing is the big roster flaw that olshey created and Cronin hasn't solved yet. Hard-capping the team for Payton makes the problem worse IMO
     
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    for all that talk about flexibility...
     
    illmatic99, Jul 1, 2022
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    Time for you to apply for a front office position. Good luck.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    How come you left off Nurk and Eubanks?
     
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    neither is under contract yet

    I'm fairly sure at least Nurkic will be there, but there is some room for doubt
     
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    "Warriors, suddenly unwilling to spend, reportedly lose Gary Payton II to Trail Blazers"

    https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Warriors-lose-Gary-Payton-Trail-Blazers-17278915.php

    The Golden State Warriors have lost key role player Gary Payton II to the Portland Trail Blazers — despite the fact that the Dubs could have paid Payton themselves and owner Joe Lacob had previously gloated about being willing to "do everything we need to do to stay on top and be the best that we can possibly be."
     
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    OK, I was up late last night drinking and so didn't see this until now. Excuse me for some strong opinions (NOT hangover-driven, trust me; it is sunny here in Seattle, I got a great night of sleep, and am feeling like a million bucks. Or was.)

    WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKING SIGNING?

    I'm sure everyone else in this thread (or at least some of you) have pointed out the obvious, but WHAT THE FUCK?

    Gary Payton II?
    • He's gonna be 30 in December (meaning: even if he's a late bloomer... he's pretty much done blooming)
    • He is 6'3" (meaning: where's he going to play? We have Dame and Ant and others who are all sub-6'4")
    • He played 2055 regular season minutes in his six year career. 1247 of them were this past season. (meaning: wtf has this guy done in his career to earn this kind of money)
    • We have other needs. Big guys needed. Kevon Looney got slightly less money and he's four years younger and he's six inches taller with a better career. That's a better option OFF OF THE SAME FUCKING WARRIORS TEAM that would have made more sense. (meaning: what the fuck is this fucking signing?)
    This is a terrible signing. I had no illusions that this team was going to be actually good this year, but this just shows a basic lack of intelligence in my opinion.
     
    Ed O, Jul 1, 2022
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    illmatic99, Jul 1, 2022
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    Dont need to.
     
    Scalma, Jul 1, 2022
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Why change up his go-to style now? :lol:
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Correct. You don't need to, because most of us already think you're incapable of debate, so really there's no need at this point to even try to change our minds.
     
    Natebishop3, Jul 1, 2022
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    I believe it's, "Don't".
     
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    I believe the period goes inside the quotation mark.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I believe it's, "dunce."
     
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    One thing I noticed in watching GP defensive highlights. Tons of hustle.....love it! But on the majority of his defensive efforts, you see one of Thompson, Wiggins, or Draymond hedging towards the ball. That is of great comfort and security and he will have nothing like that here in Portland to back him up. Wonder if that will tone down his aggressiveness?
     
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    correct, and let me let you in on a little secret. I have you MUTED. So dont even waste anymore of your time trying to interact with me. Thanks!
     
    Scalma, Jul 1, 2022
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