Zombie This is an epic disaster.

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  1. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

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    Just because you’re on the train doesn’t mean you can’t critique the route.

    And yeah, having good defenders is cool and all. We need good defenders who are tall, not short… and it’s now “and now”. It’s been the issue for a long time. People wanted two way, tall, long, athletic forwards when we were told about “roster balance”. People weren’t clamoring for small guards.
     
  2. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Sorry not buying this. See below. Explained far better than i could.
    Great counter. Do i owe you money? A beer?
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Yes what we want and what we get in life are usually not on par. Doesn't mean its a failure.
    So let me ask. Who was the attainable two way long athletic player we could have gotten? Do you have a targeted name?
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    yeah...I really didn't mean to minimize the issue of two-way wing length and depth. That's the NBA's wheelhouse and Portland is really lacking in that area unless both Little and Sharpe explode....and if Little is anywhere near any kind of explosion he may miss 3 months of the season
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    The only thing that is crazy to me is anyone thinking that they can keep Lillard and win a championship at this point. Given the assets they have had for the last several years, there is no path. Their picks aren’t high enough because the team is always in the playoffs. They don’t get free agents. They have a true star that could fetch higher picks and maybe you strike gold. Otherwise we watch Lillard play some amazing basketball and hope for the best. Just enjoy the team. But there is zero chance at a title here with Lillard.
     
  6. Wizard Mentor

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    Grant is 28, Nurk and Hart are 27. The rest of Lillard's supporting cast are younger, and in many cases, much younger - an odd decision considering our star is 32.
     
  7. Predator

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    Also, in a real business they wouldn’t fire their “top shelfers” without having replacements since that would be a massive issue.

    Also a real boss would say; Don’t care. Find top shelfers. We need them in order for our business to function.

    Your analogy might work if you then attributed heights to those 13-15 employees. “We can only have 13-15 employees, but only 4 can be 6’6 or shorter because the other 10-11 need to be able to reach the top shelf.” We have 10 that are 6’6 or shorter so you need to find a way to cut that down to 4 and hire 6 guys that are taller. Then when you came with 6’2 GP2 the boss would say, “look that’s great he has great shipping. But he can’t reach the shipping shelf, so… no.”


    With your last point you somewhat addressed it. But it was the MAIN reason we blew up the team. Then to act all ho hum about it is ridiculous lol
     
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    How does that star fetch high enough picks to strike gold when the team you move him to now has that star, as well as whatever other star they have, making those picks, more than likely, crap?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    If this last season, or last decade really were any indication:

    Unprotected picks are not crap.
     
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  11. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

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    F/A Targets:
    Otto Porter Jr.
    Kyle Anderson.
    TJ Warren
    Jalen Smith

    Draft:
    Dyson Daniels, Sochan (Perfectly happy with Sharpe tho)

    Who knows what we could’ve traded the 7th pick for.

    Not a fan but an idea:
    Retaining Joe Ingles
     
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    Where are the Cronnin supporters now who said wait and see its all part of the plan when we traded assets to the clippers for peanuts?
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    There is a third option. Put the money back in your pocket and find another kid like Watford. Young, hungry, and cheap. Avoid the hard-cap issue until you find the player you really need.
     
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    shhhh....that kills the 'Trade Dame' logic...

    "Portland can't contend with Dame because they can't land a 2nd star....so trade the one star for picks in the late 20's or 5-7 years from now and land two stars to contend....8-10 years from now"
     
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    I'm not sure i've ever seen a huge Cronin supporter but if there are some, i'm sure they are taking a reasonable stance and waiting for everything to play out. We aren't done

    LLLOOLOLLLOOOLOLLMAAOROTFLMAO
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Gobert just went for 5 first round picks on a team with a bad track record of being good.

    I think they will be better than us this year though.

    However, Durant is being floated for a young star and picks. That's the avenue you gotta take. Hence, why I suggested something like Scottie Barnes and Van Vleet for Dame. Flip Van Vleet elsewhere for the picks.
     
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    TJ Warren would’ve been a home run. Damn would’ve loved that acquisition.
     
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    Could you imagine...The return on Dame + this young core and Simons on deck. Yes to the future. Y'all do realize they had to shut Simons down last year to actually lose? It is time to move Dame
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    We could be Minnesota.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Lol. All the roads you forgot to turn on to get to that is nice.

    Just wait until the deadline then make that decision. Otherwise you're reactionary and not seeing what you have. And that's stupid.

    It'll be okay.
     

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