Don't ever patronize me when I'm trying to have a serious conversation. I don't appreciate it, and it is why I dislike trying to have "conversations" with you. I spent 12 years in Catholic school, having this shit shoved down my throat. I saw the various strains of hypocrisy throughout Catholicism in particular and religion in general. There is very little you can teach me about religion, especially the kind you apparently subscribe to. My God is a loving and gracious God, not the angry, spiteful creature that the religious right make him/her out to be.
from what I've seen those are all questions that then you give a usually snarky quip to when answered...I'm talking about thoughts and words about the topic ..not cut and paste conversations that you tag...."I might be looking into this" or " I'm going to read this guy's book someday" .....rather than read the article and talk about DeSantis religious registration for college funding and using your own words..you rarely ever tackle a subject with any sense of grasp but rather prop up someone else's grasp on the topic....I encourage you to break the habit if you want to engage a conversation rather than plaster articles all over. It takes practice but you should be able to form these ideas after reading them yourself. Prime example...you asked me about Common Core and then whoosh...offered no recognition of my answer nor offered one of your own which makes me think...you might not know about it yourself.
When it came to women, St. Paul was pretty out there all right. There are still many ideas at colleges, except of course evangelical Christian where only one viewpoint is permitted.
I didn't. I was being very serious. You were describing religious zealots (Jesus called them "white-washed tombs") who were all about trotting out their religion. I spoke of Paul, who was simply crazy about Jesus, but was still in people's faces...and took a lot of grief from much of the local communities.
If and when I respond with snark, it's generally in response to insults. I've provided plenty of personal thoughts, feelings, views, and/or personal stories in here. Probably more than most. I missed your Common Core response. I'll go back and check it out. I see you had edited your post and added the Common Core responses.
uh...no...you are a follower of the cult of personality Trump introduced to your party. you still haven't had the conversation you asked me to engage in about Common Core because you probably aren't informed enough to talk about it...I've bumped into this problem engaging you enough to know, you're not going to build a conversation ..you're going to basically say "yeah, but that's just what you think".....and still not offer an opinion. People who ask questions with the purpose of heckling the answers are usually hiding their own ignorance. Right out of Trump's playbook....
I can appreciate your peersonal thoughts and views regarding Common Core. I have read some of your other posts indicating your close connection with some of the Asian countries. I think Common Core got some of its tenants from Singapore, or such. I have no issues with it so long as it allows the family core to still have a say and influence in how their children are raised and schooled. This is becoming more and more of a lightning rod these days.
If I went to a Christian college, I wouldn't want anything taught the went against my Christian beliefs. I mean, why would I?
You enroll your children in school because you trust the school to educate your kids....you don't have to send your kids to school if you want to control their education ..parent teacher conferences are the link between parents and children...teachers reach out to parents about their children far more than parents reach out to teachers...that being said..parents do not hire teachers or set curriculum ..if you want to choose private school or homeschooling, you have to put in all the resources and time to do that, otherwise parents are responsible to "raise" children....not teachers. Teachers are responsible to teach a course. No parent is a victim of this. It's a choice.
Exactly. And I've said it in here before that parants should absolutely be involved in their kids' education - including attending public meetings, parent/teacher conferences, knowing the local issues at stake, holding the administrators accountable, and the like.
As @riverman said, if parents want their children to have an education with a religious (or biased) slant, then send them to a religion affiliated school. Otherwise, trust the people they elect to their local school boards. Parents SHOULD absolutely have input to said school board. But it should cease immediately when they try to block the teaching of historical and scientific FACTS that might make them uncomfortable. Fuck their "comfort". Kids (and all humans) should know the truth, whether they like what it tells them or not. Parents do NOT in any way, shape or form have the right to deny other people's children the right to historical or scientific facts. And that is exactly what is going on right now. Once again, the narrow minded minority is twisting democracy to impose their ignorant and close minded will on the majority. You have waaaaayyyy too much faith in parents doing the right thing for anyone but themselves and their own kids. Welcome to today's Amerika.............
I'm all about the facts Theories, not so much. If there are debates, then present the various arguments. Don't simply draw conclusions. Encourage the kids to seek out their own conclusions.
I'm not a christian, not even close. But I definitely think parents should influence what is taught to their kids in K thru 6 school. That is a no-brainer to me.
Agreed. But when you have people who absolutely refuse to listen to (and accept) indisputable facts based on historical or scientific truths, a debate isn't even remotely possible. And a lot of the refusal to listen is based on discomfort and fear of change. They don't even have a legitimate "side". These people don't even belong in the debate. And as far as "theories" go......c'mon man, religion is nothing more than a "theory", with very little in actual fact (other than the actual existence of Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, et al) to back it up. Yet billions world wide eat it up like candy. If you're into philosophy, our whole existence can be explained as nothing more than a "theory". We can play the "theory" game into infinity......
That's why you have school boards. I vote for people I trust to put my community's children's first, with the emphasis on facts in education. I trust them to help prepare these kids for entry into a complex and diverse world. Giving a few malcontents the power to fuck that all up is just plain wrong.
Scientific theories are based in fact. You want teachers in public schools to say God may have created us? Students are encouraged to think for themselves. Critical thinking is a central concept in the classroom.
They do. And always have. Your kid is going to be exposed to stuff throughout life that you don't get to schedule. Talk to your kids. If they aren't ready for certain conversations have them held back. Most schools send home waivers for delicate topics.
And worse you have people trying to create alternate facts like renaming slavery, involuntary relocation.
