This is like the there are different degrees of rape argument. Rape is fucking rape. Raping a 10yr old is raping a 10yr old. This is a fucking horrific crime. Should an unknown rapist get a lesser jail sentence than someone who is known to the family? Reduced bail? Maybe the girl dressed sexily and was asking for it?
How about her friends who might come over? Or the soon to be newborn in the mother’s stomach? Some atrocities affect more than one victim and this is could be considered more severe. A mentally ill pedophile who randomly rapes a stranger 10 yr old should possibly be treated/handled a bit differently than a mother and her bf actively raping kids and attempting to create a cult, while trying to cover it up, no? In this scenario, as atrocious as it is, there are more perspectives to take into consideration than just the 10 yr old. This to me makes it even worse than the mentally ill individual randomly raping.
Some of them are still more in control of their behavior than others. Some don't have a plan and some do. Those with a plan i would consider worse and so would the courts. Premeditated
So far as I know the mother was not a part of the rape, she called Children's Services. Mist child rapes are committed by someone known, family, neighbor, family friend.
What.... you're going to a whole weird direction. Nobody is saying that there's a good rape. Nobody is saying that it's not a horrific crime. We are talking about the impact on the child, and having her own mother involved makes it worse. I'm sorry you don't understand that.
Yeah, the Democrats put that abortion pill stuff in there knowing full well that the Republicans would have to vote against the bill, thus making them even more exposed to the Dems’ plans to use it against them in the fall elections. Politics is a cutthroat business. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of schmucks than the Republicans though. Just for the record, I’m pro choice, at least until the age of viability. We’re not a theocracy and different religions have different views on when life begins. I’ve held two pre-term grandsons in the palm of my hand though and don’t appreciate the bunch of fetal cells argument, at least as far as late term abortion for non-medical reasons goes.
Yes, I get your point and no you're not sorry. Parent, friend, stranger, it doesn't matter who. It's horrific for the child. Ranking which is worse is dumb.
I guess I just don't agree. Your parents are supposed to be the two people who you can trust no matter what. I realize that's not how it always works out, but they're supposed to love you unconditionally. Having your mother or father betray that trust is so much worse than a stranger. I wish you'd offer more than your flat statements.
I can't remember how old your daughter is but if you haven't already you will soon enough have to explain to her about good touches and bad touches. When you explain that to a kid you have to keep the message clear so it is easily understood. You don't teach a little kid that grandpa bad touches are worse than mailman bad touches. In her limited understanding of the world, she's not going to grasp your adult rationalizations or the degrees of violation she might suffer. If god forbid your daughter was abused you wouldn't turn to your wife and say thank god it was a stranger and not your brother. Because no matter who abused your daughter it would be equally as horrific as you guided and helped in her healing. No matter who abused your daughter, as a loving parent your reaction to it is going to be the same. If, as might be in this case, a parent is part of the problem and others have to step in, their response in helping her heal is going to be the same whether the girl knew or didn't know her abuser. If you had to get help for your daughter you're not going to accept some arbitrary ranking by your insurance company that she gets only 5 counseling sessions because she was raped by a stranger but if she had been raped by a family member she would get 10 counseling sessions. We're talking about 10yr old little girl. Someone who has a limited understanding of what has happened to her and even a more limited understanding of why her body is reacting to it like it is. In my opinion, there is no degree of horrific to this.
I guess we're just going to disagree, but I leave you with this... When my daughter is hurt or upset she runs to mom and dad. We are her comfort and safety. Who does she run to for comfort and safety if it's the parents who committed the violation of trust? I get that you're saying that all rape is bad, but you can't tell me that the trauma of a parent being involved isn't going to have a different impact to her than if it's a stranger. I just can't agree with that.
Republicans voted against contraception bill because either they think birth control should be outlawed or they want the far right Christian dominionists to think they want to outlaw birth control or because voting against everything is owning the libs. Or all the above.
The courts disagree with you and they rank them. But thanks for saying our opinion, which aligns with the courts, is dumb. https://vindicatelaw.com/sex-crimes/rape-defense/rape-first-second-third-degree/ First degree rape is the non-consensual sexual penetration, typically committed by threat of harm or force. It can also occur is a person is incapacitated, or unable to give consent. Rape in the second degree is called “statutory rape.” Second Degree rape usually involved legally non-consensual intercourse. https://jpcannonlawfirm.com › seco... Second Degree Rape | Cannon & Associates
ABM is OK with a raped 10 year old having to leave the state. A woman bleeding out for ten days. A woman forced to undergo labor to deliver non viable fetus. A woman with partial miscarriage having to wait until she was septic to get fetal remains removed. Own it. This is what you wanted. And when women die, and they will, own it. It's what you wanted. You voted twice for a person you knew was incompetent and corrupt just to be able to force your will on women's bodies. Raped children, dead women, own it all. It's what you prayed, and voted, for.
Ding ding ding. It's why I no longer play nice with hypocritical republican fascists. That is what they are; hateful, ignorant fascists without a shred of human dignity.
People can change. Not all of course, but some can. I just hope we allow those who need change or others want to change, the opportunity to do so.
Yes, people can change. Some people who thought they just didn't feel comfortable with abortion might change when they see the real world consequences of overturning Roe. But those for whom it was their chief goal for 50 years, who could accept any corrupt incompetent official just in hopes of forcing themselves on women, they are very unlikely to change.
Most cliches are just that. But some actually hold merit. Cant teach an old dog new tricks. While there Is always the exception to the rule, this is one of them. Just ask @SlyPokerDog But I get ya. The key is stemming the passing on of suppressive beliefs some of the elders have that wont change.
