OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I'm very comfortable in my own spin.
     
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    I think it's made you dizzy...try getting out of the dryer
     
  3. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Probably better than Don the Rapist's approach.
     
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  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Not really, but they said Maverick couldn't pull off that last maneuver, either.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    So if your ideas aren't welcome just leave them alone...
    I don't see anything about passing laws that force people to cease doing the things you consider to be sins...
     
  6. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    But what you don't get, @Road Ratt, is that causing women pain and suffering is precisely the point. Punish the sluts!
     
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    The Texas lawyer behind the bounty hunter law is in court trying to have birth control and prevention/treatment of sexually transmitted infections, including HPV vaccine, removed from health insurance.

    Because he's a Christian and shouldn't have to pay for insurance that includes such sinful things.

    Is he aware that untreated sexually transmitted infections can cause serious fetal damage?

    Of course the woman can then be prosecuted under fetal harm laws. So much more Christian than treating the illness and preventing the harm.
     
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  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That's good to hear. It's sad to see the religion of Christianity abused in order to gain control and power, to oppress others of different belief.
     
  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Not surprised.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Honestly, I don't think the abuse of Christianity has anything to do with belief. People who love power and control will use whatever means are available to establish and maintain it. Sadly, religion seems to be one of the easiest, most effective, and most nefarious options available to be abused for that purpose. There's a reason Jesus' most frequent target wasn't the Romans, but the scribes and Pharisees.
     
  12. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Of course it is - it's built into the design.

    Once you have identified people who can be convinced of something as unverifiable as the existence of a deity, then you've identified your target market, and you have a framework that you can use to exploit that market.

    barfo
     
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    Indiana attorney general is proceeding with investigation if doctor who assisted raped 10 year old although it had been verified she complied with all applicable laws. He said he doesn't believe there are many pregnant child rape victims. She invited anyone who doubts to come to her clinic.
    Intent to intimidate doctors and big them down with legal fees and endless court appearances so in future raped children won't have anyone to help them.
    Punish the sluts!
     
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    My opinion is that those of you who are blaming fundamentalist Christians for overturning Roe v Wade are incorrect. The justices who voted to overturn it are Alito (Catholic), Clarence Thomas (Catholic), Neil Gorsuch (raised Catholic but attends Episcopal church), Brett Kavanaugh (Catholic) and Amy Coney Barrett (Catholic). Chief Justice John Roberts (Catholic) concurred in the judgment only, but would have limited the decision to upholding the Mississippi law that was at issue in the case (banned abortions after 15 weeks). Catholicism has no connection with or support for fundamentalist protestant denominations. The Catholic Church is obviously staunchly anti-abortion. I don't think that was the primary motivation for overturning Roe v Wade, however. More than anything, those justices are originalists when it comes to the Constitution. They viewed Roe v Wade as unsupported by the language of the Constitution as meant by the authors of that document. I'm certain that they will maintain that viewpoint on other upcoming cases that have nothing to do with reproductive rights. They simply do not want to approve cases that weaken their view of the Constitution and which inappropriately, in their view, take power from State legislatures.
     
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    Theologically Catholics are Christians...Sociologically they are not. This is by definition written in the Catholic Leagues homesite.I always thought of Christians as being a blanket title for many churches and organizations representing God, Heaven, Hell, The Bible, Jesus, the afterlife, etc......same with Lutherans, Quakers, Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, etc......fundementalist Christians to me are staunch believers in integrating church and state which in the case of abortion has clearly crossed that line. Close parallel would be the Taliban imposing religious law upon government. Whether Catholic or Protestant ....fundementalist Christians are lobbying for political voices and contol of legislation. Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic..she's pro choice. It's more than just language.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes.

    No.

    Originalism is a bullshit justification for their desire to drag the country back in time. In reality they are only originalist when it suits their agenda of the moment.

    barfo
     
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    I never said that they weren't selectively originalist.
     
  18. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    100% this, and especially with all of their most recent rulings. You can tell the started with a conclusion and worked backwards to justify it.
     
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    I'm not sure that that isn't the case with most Supreme Courts. Roe v Wade was certainly decided with a desired end in mind.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    You are right here in ways. Yes, the Supreme Court decisions are largely based on catholic faith currently, as opposed to precedent. But, the judicial branch isn't the only force at work here. For that, one only needs to turn to state governments, the house, and senate. There are a whole metric shit-ton of "Christian" public officers and employees pushing the same issue through different formats concurrently. This is a huge Christian problem right now.
     

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