OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by ABM, Jun 29, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    I entitled this thread, "I'm dealing with a few transgender issues" and have gone on to post seeming abuses and other concerning situations. Nonetheless, I believe this article does an eloquent job of explaining some of the things my neice, and our extended family, had been going through. Very, very interesting and thought-provoking.

    https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3088298&page=1
     
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,856
    Likes Received:
    122,852
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Your article is from 2007, you can read about the rest of her life here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_Jennings
     
    ABM likes this.
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So the spot we went to brunch today ended up having a Drag Brunch. It was kind of like burlesque in that it gets old really quick. I think the girls in there being loud like it was a bachelorette party were more annoying than anything else.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  4. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,856
    Likes Received:
    122,852
    Trophy Points:
    115
    I'm proud of you! Way to expand your outlook! And I bet you looked cute in drag!
     
    Phatguysrule and EL PRESIDENTE like this.
  5. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    24,052
    Likes Received:
    30,037
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Going to have to change his moniker to “La Mujer Presidente”.
     
  6. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,856
    Likes Received:
    122,852
    Trophy Points:
    115
    [​IMG]
     
  7. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    Hello,
    There are some (not me) that are of the opinion that different clothing is a distraction to an optimal education. Some countries have strict dress codes for all students to help avoid the distraction altogether. What they don't understand is they are sacrificing creativity and individualism. It has, in general, worked for them as far as I know, though. Those counties tend to be very high in graduation percentages, iq levels, and the like.
     
  8. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,498
    Likes Received:
    27,668
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have very mixed feelings about school uniforms. But where there aren't uniforms, let students express themselves.
     
  9. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,365
    Likes Received:
    12,485
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Same on mixed feelings. One pro argument I've seen is that it puts all the kids on an even-ish playing field, if you will. So there's not the group of kids with the latest and hottest fashions, and kids who are wearing their clothes from 2-3 years ago because they are unable to afford an upgrade each year.
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  10. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,646
    Likes Received:
    6,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you have kids?

    My parents always made sure to buy me the clothes I wanted. Even if it was from a store like Ross or Marshalls or Nordstrom. Didn't matter. Because kids should feel comfortable while at school so they can focus on studies. Forcing a kid to wear something that is a uniform or not what they want since it will become a "distraction" can make a kid have a distraction since they can't relax or feel comfortable in their own skin.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  11. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,498
    Likes Received:
    27,668
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Uniforms are often very gender role. I sure would have hated having to wear a skirt.
     
  12. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    No, and i don't disagree, but i think these countries find the level of distraction of slightly uncomfortable clothes is much smaller than the distraction of fads and trying to be trendy.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_uniforms_by_country#:~:text=In modern Europe, Britain, Malta,school uniform in the U.K.
     
  13. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Perhaps, a reason why the milotary has uniforms.

    But, hey! What about marching bands?!
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  14. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,646
    Likes Received:
    6,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
  15. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    I was in a marching band. Marched the starlight several times.
    Let me just say this. My gf at the time was also in the band. And she was an in shape cheerleader, on the tennis and volleyball team.
    If those uniforms didn't make all asses flat as fuck and almost indistinguishable between the sexes, i would have likely hit many more wrong notes while marching along!
     
    YamTastic and ABM like this.
  16. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    I didn't make the decision for others and if you notice in my first post i said I’m not for uni’s?
    Please do not make this about me. I just brought up some situations happening currently is all.
     
  17. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    How about the children who's parents cant afford the latest fashion trend which can cause a lack of confidence and sometimes spawn teasing and ridicule from those with parents who can?
    I am not for school uniforms overall but trying to see both sides is all.
     
    UncleCliffy'sDaddy likes this.
  18. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,361
    Likes Received:
    14,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I wore a "uniform" for eight years of Catholic grade school, and other than the fact that they put a target on our backs for public school kids, I had no real problem with them. Growing up, my dad was trying to build a business, so my mom was on a very tight budget, as every spare nickel went back into that business. As a kid, I wasn't really fashion conscious but I knew what Chuck Taylor's and Levis were, and most of my friends wore them. But to save money, my brothers and I got Penney's plain pocket jeans, along with their Chuck Taylor knock offs (identical except for the heel tag). The rest of our outfits were augmented by thrift store bargains. While I didn't feel particularly neglected, and I understood completely where the money was going, I was still acutely aware that my wardrobe a a step down from plenty of my friends. So that made wearing a uniform a more stress free and self esteeming situation. We all dressed the same (except for those !@*&?!**##%*!>!!?! Chuck Taylor's) and the "playing field" was level. And after school we'd go home, change into our generic civvies and get on with our lives. It was just one less thing for a kid get their skivvies in a bunch over. I think uniforms should be mandatory for every school in America. That would be one less thing to detract from the actual education.......
     
  19. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,646
    Likes Received:
    6,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you are thrifty you can make it work. My parents weren't rich by any means, they just made it a priority to make sure I was comfortable in school. It worked because I make way more than either of them ever did.

    You don't have to have the latest fashion trend. I bought Ross and Marshalls stuff and fit in very well.

    Otherwise maybe they can increase property taxes and give kids clothing vouchers to pick out some stuff at places like Ross and Marshall's.

    Don't parents have to buy school uniforms? What if they can't?
     
  20. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,176
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    I don't know who pays for uniforms. I do know being made fun of for wearing fake keds is a real thing though. And not all parents can make it work. And not all parents even care.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page