OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by ABM, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,387
    Likes Received:
    12,524
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There's a great quote from Maya Angelou
    "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
     
  2. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    BTW, just curious, did you ever attend any of those many Blazer get-togethers, and meet & greets I organized and hosted. I'm not certain if I've met you, or not.
     
  3. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,387
    Likes Received:
    12,524
    Trophy Points:
    113
    nope
     
  4. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2017
    Messages:
    4,646
    Likes Received:
    6,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I tried to meet you and you never pmed me while you were here :(
     
  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    To be honest, I didn't even open my laptop while out there. Sorry. Actually, most of my time there was spent in The Dalles and Seattle, other than last Saturday's wedding in Eagle Creek.
     
  6. ehizzy3

    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    6,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Hillsboro/Bogotá
    Sad day in Florida, racists can’t teach that racism doesn’t exist
     
  7. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,644
    Likes Received:
    27,831
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Florida teachers are being instructed in the new curriculum prepared by right wing white evangelicals under DeSantis dictat. They are required to say, against all evidence including their own words, that the founders opposed slavery. A discerning student might ask why then did it take a century and a bloody civil war to end slavery. Sorry, can't discuss that. They were told to teach enslaved people immigrated to North America, not that they were kidnapped and brought in chains. They also must teach, against all evidence including their own words, that founders opposed separation of church and state and instead wanted Christian country. The can say civil war happened but are prohibited from teaching about Reconstruction, its defeat and Jim Crow segregation. Between civil war and a very sanitized Martin Luther King, who didn't oppose racism, nothing happened to Black people. At least, nothing that can be taught in Free State of Florida.

    And teachers can lose their license if they violate don't say gay. Wording is so vague some teachers are removing all books from classrooms to avoid being accused of having an inappropriate book.
     
  8. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Smart and normal kids/teens/young adults are not going to stick their heads in the sand forever and not learn everything that the stupid piece of shit DeSantis hopes. Young people are so much smarter than that. If anything it’s going to piss them off and they’ll fight back. That’s how it’s been forever. Another guy who needs a bullet.
     
    Phatguysrule and SlyPokerCat like this.
  9. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,644
    Likes Received:
    27,831
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I oppose political assassination. Just kill politically, not physically.
     
    Phatguysrule and Fairly-Hard like this.
  10. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    If I’m confident that someone’s actions or words are going to cost an innocent person their life, fuck em. What they are doing in FL (don’t say gay) is going to eventually create an environment where some kid/teen (or anyone) takes their life. I think it’s reasonable that’ll happen. Clearly I’m not gonna do it. But if DeSantis got hit by a bus I’d be thrilled.
     
  11. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,387
    Likes Received:
    12,524
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe pigeon could help us out.

    [​IMG]
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  12. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,644
    Likes Received:
    27,831
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I absolutely agree with @calvin natt's assessment. But while I would not cry if he was hit by a bus, I still must oppose political assassination.
     
  13. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    11,700
    Likes Received:
    21,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is basically my stance as well. The opposition to political assassination though ends when someone starts genocidal behavior. That is a no zone.
     
    riverman, Phatguysrule and RR7 like this.
  14. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,644
    Likes Received:
    27,831
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anyone read The Dead Zone? Protagonist is considering assassinating a Congressman who he knows will become president and start nuclear war. He asks his acquaintances, if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler?

    Off topic but reminded of that.
     
    Phatguysrule and RR7 like this.
  15. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Would I? Of course. I don’t get it when people take a hard stance like “two wrongs don’t make a right” in a hypothetical situation where clearly the greater good benefits by taking out a bad guy. Truly bad people - animals/monsters need to be taken out. People are afraid to say it. I don’t understand that. Oh you rape a child? I will GLADLY pull the trigger. So yeah. I would want to kill Hitler.
     
    Fairly-Hard and Phatguysrule like this.
  16. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,709
    Likes Received:
    16,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    100% agree.
     
    Fairly-Hard likes this.
  17. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,119
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    100% disagree. There is no way to know who the bad people truly are until after their actions.
     
  18. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    21,644
    Likes Received:
    27,831
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Florida citizens with felony conviction lost their right to vote forever. No appeal. No exceptions. Florida voters overwhelmingly passed an initiative allowing citizens to regain voting rights after release from prison. It passed the same year DeSantis barely won the governorship. He immediately set out to overturn it by attaching requirements that all fines, fees, court costs, restitution be paid. With interest and penalties, a small fine can mushroom into tens of thousands of dollars. There was no data base where a person could find out what they owe or if they were eligible to register to vote. Civil liberties groups filed suit, claiming it was in effect a poll tax, but lost.

    Due to racial disparities in criminal justice, the law fell especially hard on Black citizens; 20% of Florida's Black population is ineligible to vote due to past convictions.

    DeSantis demanded money for a special election police force accountable only to him personally but no money for people to learn how they can become eligible to vote again. So people relied on state voter registrars.

    DeSantis, in front of his hand picked election cops, announced with great fanfare the arrest of 20 people who had "illegally" registered to vote. They face five years in prison.

    The wife of one of them talked about how proud her husband had been to vote for the first time in his life. He genuinely thought he was eligible to register.

    Republican Jesus. Afflict the afflicted, trample on the downtrodden. And the Republicans will praise you. And as long as you hate gays, you can talk about what a fine Christian you are.

    This is what he wants for the country.

    Just another fascist bully with better grammar than Trump.
     
  19. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

    Joined:
    May 2, 2021
    Messages:
    9,062
    Likes Received:
    7,411
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Currently the apartment in the Moda
    Not saying much if you have better grammar than Donald Trump.
     
  20. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,458
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    There’s no way to totally know for sure who the bad people are?

     
    RR7, ehizzy3 and Phatguysrule like this.

Share This Page