Let's take ABM out of this, no offense to him but anytime he posts anything the same handful of people seem to jump all over it like chumming the water for sharks. If this is accepted in their culture and the young woman didn't seem to mind one bit, than why should we be getting outraged over this?
Has anyone ever seen a young female athlete get their ass patted by her coach and father? I haven’t. So that’s likely why it’s a little creepy. I feel like I’ve watched enough womens sports to notice that. Maybe not.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sara-bejlek-us-open-tennis-father-czechia-b2156621.html "If something similar happened in the Czech Republic, no one would deal with it. Since we are in America, everyone comments on it" ~Sara Bejlek
is it weird? Sure. did he grab her ass? Didn't appear so. Isn't it her father? You guys are making me somewhat agree with ABM here. BUT, the "only Americans think it's bad" stuff is a little off putting, considering many of the right freak out about things that "only Americans" think is bad. On the other hand, we needed a distraction and this provided it. We're the same country that parades girls around in skin tight uniforms for gymnastics and sexualizes young girls in pageants, videos, fashion and movies. We're also the same country that elected a man who, even if he was joking, told a 10 year old that when she turns 18, she's the "kind of girl" he'd marry, so... Squirrel!!
Anyway. Still creepy in my book. Not “justify it cuz it’s normal there” comment creepy, but creepy nonetheless.
Sometimes people eager to defend something like this, can come off like the "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat" t-shirts that were worn a few years back. They were only worn to get a reaction/pwn the libs, and not actually what the person believes to be the case. It can be both not a big deal and also be a bit weird/strange, even if it's part of "their culture". Like I said, we have a lot of weird shit that is part of "our culture" when it comes to how women are treated. Just because "Young Miss" pageants are part of our culture, doesn't mean it's not weird as shit.
Isn't the whole, "it's part of their culture" "they do things differently where they're from" when we looked at the Karolyis and how they ran the US Women's Gymnastic program that allowed Larry Nassar to abuse girls and young women for decades? I'm not saying this is the same thing but thousands of people missed what was happening to those girls. Thousands of people saw or heard something and decided to dismiss it in the name of winning. We all have to do better and understand that predators put themselves in positions to prey. I saw that video clip yesterday before it got posted here and it's cringeworthy. I think that there is enough there to investigate vs dismissing it in the name of US prudish standards.
I agree....just because you can have legally a dozen 12 year old wives in Somalia doesn't mean it's ok to have a harem of underaged girls as wives. When in Somalia doesn't come up very often as an excuse or cultural difference or every pedophile in the world would move there. "I don't live in Somalia" isn't helping those girls.
To be clear, i have not read one post actually defending or sticking up for the OP what i have read is over the top responses to someone casually insinuating that we are a different culture and different cultures accept different things. Would I dismiss if my girl was uncomfortable with it? No. But when the girl herself is not bothered, I see no reason to roll out the hangman's noose for anyone acknowledging different cultures can be, you know, different? Like Julius pointed out, I personally see much more cringeworthy American culture behavior than this right on American tv. But lets let that go and get all up in arms because someone said that this may be accepted in their culture?
How again do we know the 16 year old doesnt have a problem with it? She smiled? She said it’s ok? The alternative is to throw her coach and dad to the wolves?
Young women in professional sports have a pretty dark history of abuse from coaches, trainers, etc.....I don't think that's it's unfair that it raises eyebrows from spectators given what female athletes have gone through and still go through....it's beyond cultural differences ....most teen aged athletes stand by their trainers until they grow up and look back and seek counseling later on in life. This isn't kissing people on the cheek in France. The sports have red flags around them because of the history of abuse...not because of moral differences.
