Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Olin Kreutz is among the players the Bears are considering resting during the regular-season finale Sunday at Minnesota (3:15 p.m., Fox-32, 780-AM), and that could spoil one of the NFL's better grudge matches.Vikings defensive tackle Pat Williams is out for revenge for what he feels was a Pro Bowl snubbing orchestrated by Kreutz, a charge the Bears center finds ridiculous. Don't be surprised if Kreutz petitions coaches to let him play in an otherwise meaningless game, despite spraining an ankle Sunday at Green Bay.Williams ripped Kreutz in a Nov. 4 article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, calling the five-time Pro Bowl player "a joke.''Fans, players and coaches selected the participants in the Pro Bowl, which will be played Feb. 12 in Honolulu. Each group's collective vote counted one-third toward determining rosters for the AFC and NFC.Six Bears were selected: linebackers Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher, strong safety Mike Brown, defensive tackle Tommie Harris, center Olin Kreutz and cornerback Nathan Vasher. Urlacher received the most fan votes of any NFC defensive player, and Kreutz received more than double the fan votes of his nearest NFC competitor.''You all want to bump the guy up,'' Williams said. ''Kreutz, he ain't nothing but a joke. He's been a joke since he came in the league. I've never respected the guy.''The bad-mouthing was followed last week by comments from Angelo Wright, Williams' agent, in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, alleging that Kreutz worked to blackball Williams in Pro Bowl voting by players. Williams finished in the top three among NFC defensive tackles in fan balloting but was not named to the team, passed over by, among others, the Bears' Tommie Harris.''I know for a fact that the Bears were upset about Pat's comments about Olin Kreutz,'' Wright told the Pioneer Press. ''So Kreutz and the players called around and were in cahoots to make sure Pat didn't get votes.''Those comments set off Kreutz, who started ahead of Minnesota's Matt Birk in last season's Pro Bowl.''When [Williams]talks nonsense about me like that, I can respond in so many ways,'' Kreutz said. ''I can attack him. I can call him a fat slob. I can tell him he has never made the Pro Bowl. I can say all of this stuff. Then his stupid agent comes out and says I am manipulating Pro Bowl votes. Like I actually know that many people.''Obviously, if everyone likes you, you're probably doing something wrong. I'm glad there is someone out there that hates my guts. It makes me feel good about myself.''While Williams feels he has something to prove and Kreutz is more than happy to accommodate him, the Bears' coaching staff might be thinking differently. With the Bears planning to start quarterback Rex Grossman, they want their best line out there, but they could elect to use Roberto Garza and effectively give Kreutz three weeks to heal before the divisional playoff round.The last thing the team wants to do is send Grossman onto the turf where he blew out his right knee last season behind a makeshift line. Kreutz, who has missed only one game in the last four seasons, undoubtedly will fight efforts to keep him on the bench.Williams made his remarks two weeks after the Bears defeated the Vikings 28-3 at Soldier Field, the only game this season in which the offense has produced four touchdowns. It was the biggest margin in the series since 1998 and the most lopsided Bears victory over Minnesota since 1989.The Bears were limited to 95 rushing yards, and Kreutz acknowledged that the 6-3, 317-pound Williams played well.''Let me be very honest about it,'' Kreutz said. ''He played a hell of a game against us, he did a hell of a job against me and I won't lie about that. If that's why he thinks I'm a joke, that's fine. I don't give a [hoot].''Bears left guard Ruben Brown missed the first meeting with a pectoral injury but was chirping back and forth with Williams from the sideline. They were teammates in Buffalo for seven seasons, and Brown said he and Ted Washington, who also is represented by Wright, took Williams under their wings after the Bills signed him as an undrafted rookie free agent.''I had a good relationship with Pat,'' Brown said. ''But I can't believe this. It hurts me that he is saying these things. It doesn't make him look good by saying it. You don't do that in this league. There's a code. He went the wrong way.''Now, am I surprised this was coming out of his mouth? No. But I'm surprised he said it in public. I've heard him say things like that before. Sane people aren't going to say those things, not when probably the rest of the league regards Olin as maybe being the best at his position. Who says that stuff? Idiots. I'm sticking by my man, Olin.''Brown laughed off the idea that Kreutz could organize a movement against Williams.''Does he think we're like the mob or something?'' he said. ''See, that lets you know what type of people these are. I'm trying to convince Olin not to get into it with those guys [Williams and Wright]. It's no wonder -- both of them aren't that bright.''Kreutz played against Williams only once before in a 2002 game at Buffalo. He said he never has met Williams in any other setting. Typically, Kreutz declines to comment on players from other teams or else heaps praise their way, but he said Williams stepped over boundaries that exist for professionals.''The code is this: Don't hide behind a newspaper,'' Kreutz said. ''If you have something to say to someone, look them dead in the face. I'm going to be there on Sunday, lining up right across from him. Everyone knows I'm happy to oblige him."I don't know if he thought that talking was going to get him in the Pro Bowl. You're going to play me Jan. 1, and the guy is talking about me in [early] November. The whole thing is just so silly to me.''</div>http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-bear28.html
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' Wow....the players are almost as bad at starting conspiracy theory's as some of these posters here.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' Pat Williams needs to shut his big fat a$$ up.All Kreutz had to say is,we're in the playoffs and you're not.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ven0m @ Dec 29 2005, 10:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow....the players are almost as bad at starting conspiracy theory's as some of these posters here.</div> Like me?
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Dec 29 2005, 02:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ven0m @ Dec 29 2005, 10:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Wow....the players are almost as bad at starting conspiracy theory's as some of these posters here.</div>Like me? </div> Maaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeee
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ven0m @ Dec 29 2005, 02:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KyleOrton18 @ Dec 29 2005, 02:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ven0m @ Dec 29 2005, 10:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Wow....the players are almost as bad at starting conspiracy theory's as some of these posters here.</div>Like me? </div>Maaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeee </div>Are you forgetting this conspiracy I posted, that the NFL has a conpsiracy against the Vikings:The 1st Packers-Vikings game, that kickoff was clearly fumbled and the Vikings recovered it. Ref said he was down. It was inside the 2 minute warning, Pack get the ball at midfield, drive, kick a GW FG.The 2nd Packers-Vikings game, end of the 1st half, Pack driving in Vikings territory, 3rd down, about 20 seconds, no timeouts left. He completes a pass, reciever doesn't get OB and misses the 1st down by a mile. Clock is running, 4th down, Pack have no timeouts. They can't spike it, they can't get the FG unit on and lined up. Pack should be going into the half w/ no points. Instead, the officals call for a measurement. It allows the Pack to get the FG unit on and lined up. That was BS. They missed the 1st down by a mile and they call for a measurement, allow them to get the FG unit on, lined up. It was good and the difference in the game.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 12:54 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Pat Williams needs to shut his big fat a$$ up.All Kreutz had to say is,we're in the playoffs and you're not. </div> Maybe Kreutz has to shut his ass up for even taunting the Vikings in the first place...
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Dec 29 2005, 06:15 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 12:54 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Pat Williams needs to shut his big fat a$$ up.All Kreutz had to say is,we're in the playoffs and you're not. </div>Maybe Kreutz has to shut his ass up for even taunting the Vikings in the first place... </div> Boo hoo.Little whiner.Poor Vikings fan.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Dec 29 2005, 06:15 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 12:54 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Pat Williams needs to shut his big fat a$$ up.All Kreutz had to say is,we're in the playoffs and you're not. </div>Maybe Kreutz has to shut his ass up for even taunting the Vikings in the first place... </div>Boo hoo.Little whiner.Poor Vikings fan. </div> Im not whining dumbassPay attention in school and learn to read between the lines instead of saying things that come out of your ass
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Quit acting like a dumbass.</div> Me acting like a dumbass should be the LEAST of your personal issues....dumbass
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Dec 29 2005, 06:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Quit acting like a dumbass.</div> Me acting like a dumbass should be the LEAST of your personal issues....dumbass </div> Right....
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Right.... </div> I know im rightand quit overusing that "rolleyes" smilie when it's not even appropriate, I see you using in every post trying to embarass someone when your arguably the biggest moron on the board.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Dec 29 2005, 06:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Right.... </div>I know im rightand quit overusing that "rolleyes" smilie when it's not even appropriate, I see you using in every post trying to embarass someone when your arguably the biggest moron on the board. </div>I can use whatever i want.Who are you to boss me around.Go fuck yourself.You assclown.
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I can use whatever i want.Who are you to boss me around.Go fuck yourself.You assclown.</div> Just stop. Seriously..
Re: Kreutz has retorts for Vikings' 'fat slob' <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (His Greatness @ Dec 29 2005, 06:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Da Bears 88 @ Dec 29 2005, 06:29 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> I can use whatever i want.Who are you to boss me around.Go fuck yourself.You assclown.</div>Just stop. Seriously.. </div>Take your own advice.You act like you never do anything wrong.
