Notice From My Cold Dead Hands......

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    There is no question Biden needs to just stop talking sometimes.
     
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    let’s arm the teachers it’ll go swimmingly


     
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    What kind of training does this SRO have? We've already established police aren't well trained or often even the right kind of people to be peace officers.

    Nobody is suggesting forcing all untrained teachers to carry firearms. Quite the opposite.

    This guy was dry firing in the school. There is no reason to even have that gun out of his holster. Dude shouldn't have any job that allows him to carry a firearm.
     
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    All I know is he’s a SRO and given a gun. Think it’s safe to assume he had a certain level of training. And still fired through walls with kids around. So Mrs Thompson the 6th grade home ec teacher might not fare well either.
     
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    If he's "dry firing" a gun in any school then he is the wrong kind of person to have a gun in any official capacity.

    Again, if Mrs Thompson isn't the kind of person who would avoid playing with a gun at school after training then she shouldn't be able to pass assessments to carry a gun at school.

    Most teachers wouldn't have that problem.
     
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    So only the ones who “avoid playing with a gun” should back out of this. The good and smart ones would never do such a thing? What like if they pinky promise not to be an idiot we feel good about their newfound firearm skills and say congrats, here’s a gun, keep em in line?
     
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    That will flip some burgers. Even with as misinformed as it is it’s a cool twist of thought.
     
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    "Misinformed" except for all of the historical data that backs it up. But we've gone over all of that.
     
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    Not much data on an opinion but sure.
     
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    The historical data backs up the opinion in this case.
     
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    Alright so let’s put this in place. You are trying to say historical data backs up that privileged white people are who want gun control?
    I think you are confused here? Plenty of Blacks, Hispanics and Asian people want gun control.
    Don’t take this down a different path. Try to stay on this topic alone. Show me that data please.
     
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    No, that's obviously not what I'm saying. I am saying those policies negatively impact poor and minorities disproportionately more than wealthy whites.

    For example,
    https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=TU013



    https://www.salon.com/2022/06/08/wh...ed-black-men-meant-immediate-control_partner/
     
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    I see. So now we want to talk about Ronnie Reagan about 40 years ago. You said and I quote…”Data”. I knew you’d try to change the narrative and muddy it up a bit.
    People like you seem to forget Ronnie was SHOT!
    See ya.
     
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    Now people gonna start saying the Brady Bill was a story about a lovely lady…
     
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    Muddy what up? You don't think those black deaths in Tulsa count as data?

    Talk about mudding the water...
    Reagan wasn't shot until he was president, in 1981. 14 years after enacting his racist gun control as Governor of California.

    You know, you'd think you'd eventually lose faith in your position since you keep needing to be dishonest to prop it up... I certainly would.
     
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    So you google up two links. One that is questionable at best dated over 50 years ago that kind of goes along the lines of the original statement that gun control is being imposed by the privileged white man and call that “Data” then have the gall to say I’m being dishonest?
    Okay.
     
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    I’m betting there are a few Hispanics in Texas that might care to differ with that position.
    Still have not seen one speck of actual data that would support such a claim. But as I said it’s a cool hamburger to flip and it sure shoots like a really really red herring.
     
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    Define data:
    noun
    facts and statistics collected together for reference or analysis.

    So according to you, the black deaths at the Tulsa massacre don't count as data.

    Is that just because they are black?

    The data I've shown dozens of times regarding gun control not working doesn't count as data?

    How about all of our expanded gun control here in Oregon? And California? And Washington?

    More gun control laws in the last 5 years than in the prior 100 years. And since then drastically increased violent crime and murder rates. Disproportionately of poor and minorities...

    It doesn't get any more dishonest than your stance on gun control.
     

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