I think more rep's and will jump ship too Betsy than dems will. Tina will carry Mult, Lane ,WA & Counties by land slide and Bend Oregon. A women republican that believes in pro choice will stomach Betsy more so than Tina. Just my 72 year old opinion.
Don't agree, there're many republican/conservative women and men (maybe they were raised that way and now think for themselves) that are pro choice and have come around on other social issues that will with vote Betsy or Tina.
I find the premise of "X taking votes away from Y" to be somewhat disingenuous. X would have to have someone's vote in order to take them away from Y, but if they aren't voting for X then they aren't that candidates vote in the first place. Idk. Election season sucks. None of these candidates are taking my vote from a different one, as I haven't decided yet. I guess that's anecdotal, but that's where I'm at.
Well, one way to look at it is that if you decide to vote for X, then if your second choice was Y, Y lost out. If you were never going to vote for Z, then your decision between X and Y really doesn't affect how many votes Z gets, but X and Y are still very interested in which you choose. barfo
Im also in the camp that thinks Betsy is taking more votes from Tina. Homeless, crime and drug use is a big concern with the older moderate democrats. Its a big wedge issue being exploited by the republicans right now. People are fed up enough with it all to vote for change of any sort.
Which is why Drazen has basically stolen Obama's platform. She says vote for "Change" as much as Johnson says vote for an "Independent Governor".. This is the problem with voting for Democrats who don't stand for anything except making deals.
I don't hate it. I'm no fan of Tina's, but she is so much better than the alternatives that I'll be very happy if she wins. Same as with Biden vs. Trump. barfo
Would-be Metolius developers sue Oregon for $30 million, saying state didn’t live up to bargain Pretty interesting article that mentions 2 of the 3 candidates. I had no idea about this issue. Those developers definitely got hosed, but I doubt they'll be hard up for cash anytime soon.
These were all paraphrases. Some editorial liberties may have been taken. But I don't think she wanted to be nice there; the A+ rating from the NRA is one of the biggest negatives against Johnson for many Oregon voters.
It's also one of the biggest positives for many Oregon voters. The first group isn't taking any voters away from Drazen. The 2nd group is definitely taking voters away from Kotek. Were that not the case I bet Kotek would have a sizeable lead in all polls right now.
I think an A+ rating from the NRA would take voters away from Kotek. Lots of her voters would stay home (well, stay home and not vote, rather than stay home and vote). You can't please all the people all the time. In another thread today you were saying you wanted politicians who stood for something other than compromise (paraphrasing, I can't find it at the moment). barfo
I don't think Kotek would need an A+ rating to retain those voters. Simply not be supporting further gun control in a state which has enacted a lot of gun control over the last 5 years only to see violent crime and gun crime spike thereafter... I'm not asking for her to just compromise, I'm asking for a Democrat to take a different approach to this issue. Just pushing more gun control only hurts.
That's not what she stands for. You should respect her more for not moving towards your position barfo
All the thought required to figure out what you just said bothers my pretty, little head. I like to simplify it down to: vote for my candidate and I'm your friend, don't vote for my candidate and fuck you.
Gun crime can only be solved by both the state which has a limited effect and by federal intervention which has a vastly greater impact.
She doesn't stand for anything on guns. She's just parroting the party line. There is nothing to respect in that. It may cost her the election...
