Free agency

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  1. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    Who are our free agents?

    Who is eligible for a mid-season extension?

    Who is restricted and unrestricted?

    They must keep Grant, Hart and Winslow.
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Jerami Grant, Justice Winslow, and Drew Eubanks are free agents after this season.

    Grant is eligible for a mid season extension.

    Josh Hart has a players option

    Brown, Watford, and Walker are all unguaranteed.
     
  3. 0-Our!

    0-Our! Noob-ish

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    I remember when ppl wanted/talked about trading Hart... he has been & will be vital to W's/our success.
     
  4. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    I think most people who think Hart gets dealt don't want him to leave but understand that he is going to get a crap-ton of money and we may not be able to afford him plus Shae can take his spot at a fraction of the price.

    I still hope we keep him but I have a hard time seeing us paying all these guys so wouldn't be surprised if POR deals him.
     
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  5. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    I am equal to, or the biggest Sharpe fan on the board, and ill be the first to say there is no way(currently) Sharpe can fill Harts shoes. The way Hart pushes the ball, there isn't anyone on the roster who can do that. when he pushes ahead of Ant and Dame for them to trail?Thats absolutely lethal. I dont think Sharpe can push like that.
     
  6. wizenheimer

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    I don't trust the Vulcans, at all, to agree to a process that adds much future tax

    that said, if Cronin somehow keeps Portland under the tax line this year (looks like they are 67K under the line right now), I'm pretty sure their repeater-tax clock does a re-set to zero. Meaning they could theoretically spend the next 3 seasons over the tax line without paying repeater tax. And the following season would be the free agency seasons of Ant and Nurk when their current contracts have ended

    in other words, it could be that the notion Portland can't afford to pay Hart his market value may be false
     
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  7. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    You need that emotional figure. Hart is our Draymond. The stats aren't all-world (except for rebounding), but every successful team needs that guy. Memphis has Brooks. We have Hart. Warriors have Dray.

    He must be kept at all costs.
     
  8. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Bruh I trust Hart.

    I don't trust shaedon. You keep Hart, you teach shaedon. He's still years away to get to where Hart is, and that's okay.
     
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    Eventually though, I believe we'll trust Shaedon too:cheers:
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Never said we wouldnt. It'd just be dumb to give him that much responsibility so soon when we have a great person for that already.
     
  11. Tince

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    You described me perfectly. I don't want him to get traded, but I still expect him to.
     
  12. SharpesTriumph

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    If the Blazers are winning, Hart is starting and playing well I highly doubt he is traded. He won't have a ton of trade value, as a team acquiring him would likely also be concerned of having to overpay him in the summer to resign him. Maybe he could get an end of the 1st round pick or good second round pick. But at that point doesn't Portland just keep him and risk him resigning or leaving for nothing?

    Now if the Blazers nosedive and are in the lottery sure flip him for an asset and tank. But that wouldn't be limited to Hart.

    Assuming the Blazers are competitive; this is an issue for the offseason. Only decision in season could be extending Grant. Blazers can review all their options in the summer, dumping Nurk/GP2, letting Hart walk or resign, etc.
     
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    The Blazers can get under the tax this season easily.

    So you think the Blazers need to trade Hart now because it would be easier for them to then get under the tax at the February 2024 trade deadline?
     
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    I think we made the Clipper trade, to dump their salaries. I think we made the Pelican trade because we liked Hart and wanted to get Simons more minutes. I would be surprised if we trade Hart unless it is a no-brainer upgrade for a big.
     
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  15. Tince

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    Agreed on the Clipper trade. I think the CJ trade was a combination of getting off his salary (knowing he'd want an extension), that it was time to breakup the Dame/CJ backcourt, and they felt the Hart + Grant addition was enough in return.

    I think Hart is likely to be traded (unless we're a top 5 team) because the team is investing in Sheadon/Nas long term and the roster is so imbalanced. Hart should have a ton of value to the right team. I think we only hold on to Hart if we think we can win a playoff series this year.

    I'm a huge Hart fan, so if we trade him, that will be a bummer.
     
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    Hart should have more value this season than Feb 2024.
     
  17. BigGameDamian

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    I agree. I’d rather look to deal Ant+ For a needle moving SF. Start Heart or Sharpe when he’s ready at the 2.
     
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  18. HailBlazers

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    Hart, like Nas, will be motivated to be a Blazer long term. The love and respect he'll get from Blazer fans will be unlike anything he's experienced in his underappreciated career.
     
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    Portland is currently sitting at ~$60k UNDER the tax line right now.
     
  20. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    What kind of payday do you think Hary will get? I would be against letting him go. What is he 26?? No way do you let him walk. I dont see him as the same as Shaedon. Hart is an emotional leader out there and Shae is mich more reserved. Hart does the gritty stuff that I dont know if Shae will do.
     
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