OT Kyrie Irving is certain that he is not an anti-semite; many others disagree

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  1. illmatic99

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    smh, that's not all he did. he fucking spouted praises for alex jones' new world order bullshit while tripling down on the anti-semitic messages in the move he linked to. do some research for god's sake.
     
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    Nah. Ill let you go digging into everyones personal lives. You seem to be great at flinging judgements over it all.

    Smh…

    any actual basketball news in here?
     
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    Inferring here, of course, but are you saying it's okay to just broadly distribute literature and film that is factually anti-Semitic, because hey - the person passing it along is fine because they themselves didn't say it?

    By that logic the people praising the cult leader and espousing their rhetoric are fine people because it wasn't them who created said rhetoric.

    Just trying to understand why it's okay to pass off anti-Semitic literature.... because it's not. This guy has influence and millions of followers, but because he himself didn't say the actual words, it's fine? Because we all pass along things we don't believe in, right?

    That is where the beef is, and rightly so. So it's not "over the top"
     
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    judgement? this dude is one step removed from spouting neo-nazi nonsense to millions of followers while representing his team and the league in public. get out from under your rock.
     
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    So then why post it if you don't want to promote it? Just because? There's some level of implied promotion whether or not it's intended. That's how it works.
     
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    So if i post a link to a mass shooting without comment, does that mean i support mass shootings?

    rhats the problem. People infer and assume waaaayyyy too much in todays world. And then are hastily judgemental about their assumptions.
     
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    See above…
     
  10. illmatic99

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    if you're gonna be lazy and not even bother clicking the link that addresses exactly what you posted, i dunno what to tell you:

    Now the worst you could say is that Kyrie Irving deliberately promoted an antisemitic film, repeatedly defended that choice, steadfastly refused to apologize and dismissed anyone who raised concerns—including his team, the NBA and the Anti-Defamation League.

    And based on all that, you could justifiably say much worse about him—and it would be hard to refute any of it.

    The film Irving tweeted about last week (which we won’t name here) leaves no ambiguity about its own viewpoint, trafficking in countless antisemitic tropes (per Rolling Stone): that Jews control the media and banking, that Jews were responsible for slavery, that Jews created anti-Black racism and on and on, drawing on fabricated quotes that have been a staple of antisemitic propaganda for decades.

    The film (according to a screenshot posted by the New York Post’s Mike Vaccaro) also accuses Jews of creating “falsehoods” to “protect their status and power.” Among these alleged falsehoods? That six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

    There is nothing veiled or vague here. This is classic, blatant antisemitic propaganda, the same vile, hateful talking points spewed by neo-Nazis, alt-right trolls and conspiracy theorists of all stripes.

    Kyrie Irving posted a link to this film, with these assertions, left it up for days, dismissed all criticism, made himself out to be the victim, lashed out at reporters who asked him to explain himself and cut short his media session Saturday night. But he did first confirm that yes, in fact, he’d watched the film before tweeting the link—eliminating the possibility he’d perhaps promoted the film without knowing its contents—which means he’s also forfeited any benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Lol. Okay.
    Smh…

    ill be more judgemental like you with all my assumptions.
     
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    Lmfao…
     
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    The next time someone posts a tweet about a mass shooting without comment, ill be sure to judge them on promoting mass shootings.

    for fucks sake… lol.
     
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    So what if he just posted a swastika on his Instagram or Twitter? Would that be okay as well?
     
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    That's not a good comparison at all. Posting a news article is sharing news. If you post a link to an over the top racist movie, without comment, but confirm that you did watch it and all of it's racism, then one would rightfully assume you support it. Why else would you post it and not comment?
     
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    it's not even just "tacit endorsement" like some people are claiming. His reaction to getting called out on it is downright damning. if this was not a 20 pt scorer, he would be out of the league.
     
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    did more than that in the PC following his last game this weekend. warning, you will lose brain cells after watching this bullshit.

     
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    you arent getting the point. It isnt my place or your to say its right. Or wrong. He didnt say hos link was good or bad.
    but people just assume.
    typical.

    Sure everyone is entitled to opinions. Doesnt make you right or wrong.
     
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    If you post a link of an article SUPPORTING the shooter and his motives.....well that's different son.
     
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    there can be many reasons. Mayne he is spreading it for others to watch and come to their own conclusions without inserting his own opinions to not influence others’ opinions?

    Assumptions are making an ass out of some people right now.
    I wish i had the pompousness to KNOW what others are thinking at all times and be so judgemental over it.
     
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