Senior Bowl Practice thread

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  1. Chaintime

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    Venom, could you sticky this?1st dayPlayers who impressed<u>Tye Hill / CB / Clemson</u> Showed great coverage against Demetrius Williams, in which he got a one handed int.<u>Travis Wilson / WR / Oklahoma</u> Great hands and speed, the only WR's who actually caught every pass thrown his way<u>D'Brickshaw Ferguson / OT / Virginia</u> Pushed around Mathias Kiwanuka, and looked good, take in consideration that there was no contact.<u>Anthony Smith / S / Syracuse</u> Looked good in coverage and could have layed some people out if it was livePlayers who didn't impress<u>Will Blackmon / CB / Boston College</u> Very rusty, hasen't played CB in a year. Got burned on short routes.<u>Derek Hagan / WR / Arizona State</u> Droped 2 passes, not a good start to show scouts<u>Jay Culter / QB / Vanderbilt</u> He looked good but then didn't, showed he was nervous and over throw a lot of WR's.I will have some more in detailed reports in the later days.
     
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    5 Words.... Deangelo Williams owns Senior Bowl
     
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    Did you watch the practice? Are you gettting this off a site? Or where?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HandZ19 @ Jan 23 2006, 09:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><u>Jay Culter / QB / Vanderbilt</u> He looked good but then didn't, showed he was nervous and over throw a lot of WR's.</div> venom, what you think about that? [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Jan 23 2006, 06:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HandZ19 @ Jan 23 2006, 09:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <u>Jay Culter / QB / Vanderbilt</u> He looked good but then didn't, showed he was nervous and over throw a lot of WR's.</div>venom, what you think about that? [​IMG] </div> First day of practice with a bunch of strangers, who wouldnt be nervous. Well see how it is come this weekend.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Jan 23 2006, 06:04 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Did you watch the practice? Are you gettting this off a site? Or where?</div> I think NFL Network is covering practices all the way to the game.
     
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    I wish I had NFL Network. [​IMG]
     
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    yeah, me too. Rents doesn't have cabel, I just have the usually channels. When I move out, i'm definately getting it.
     
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    This is the meat market where hundreds of scouts, coaches and personnel men gather in a ballroom and watch as each prospect is brought on stage in his shorts to be measured and weighed. The way to read the heights is as follows: The first number is "feet", the third number is inches and the final numbers represents "1/8 of an inch".For example, 6023 equates to 6-2 3/8, 6044 is 6-4 1/2, 5102 is 5-10 1/4 and so on.http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/...ts/weighin.htmlQuarterbacks? Brodie Croye, Alabama 6022 200 * Thin and looked like a regular guy.? Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt 6027 223 * Looked big and solid.? Darrell Hackney, U.A.B. 5113 240 * Built and VERY cut.? Michael Robinson, Penn St. 6010 218 * Looked lean and athletic.? D.J. Shockley, Georgia 6006 205 * Looked thin and frail.? Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson 6042 216 * Was tall with an athletic build.Running Backs / Fullbacks? Joseph Addai, L.S.U. 5111 208 * Looked very solid.? Mike Bell, Arizona 6000 218 * Big and maybe a little soft.? Andre Hall, South Florida 5081 203 * Compact and sturdy.? Jerome Harrison, Washington St. 5091 196 * Looked very small and frail.? Cedric Humes, Virginia Tech 6002 227 * Looked big and strong.? Garrett Mills, Tulsa 6006 236 * Has a solid build.? Jerious Norwood, Mississippi St. 5113 205 * Was solid and cut.? Lawrence Vickers, Colorado 5117 239 * Looked big and sturdy.? Terrence Whitehead, Oregon 5096 213 * Sturdy and solid.? DeAngelo Williams, Memphis 5084 208 * Looked very strong and compact.Wide Receivers? Devin Aromashodu, Auburn 6021 202 * Looked a little slight.? Jason Avant, Michigan 6003 209 * Looked like he was strong.? Hank Baskett, New Mexico 6024 220 * Big, tall and cut.? Skyler Green, L.S.U. 5090 193 * Solid despite his height.? Derek Hagan, Arizona St. 6013 203 * Looked strong and very cut.? Anthony Mix, Auburn 6040 242 * Big, strong and sturdy.? Sinorice Moss, Miami (FL) 5077 183 * Small but solid and strong.? Martin Nance, Miami (OH) 6037 208 * Very tall, cut and athletic.? Ben Obomanu, Auburn 6003 202 * Solid and athletic.? Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame 6041 216 * Looked very big and lean.? Demetrius Williams, Oregon 6013 188 * Looked strong and cut.? Travis Wilson, Oklahoma 6011 208 * Very solid and strong.Tight Ends? Dominique Byrd, Southern Cal 6023 252 * Looked very soft.? Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado 6052 250 * Big, tall and cut.? Marcedes Lewis, U.C.L.A. 6057 254 * Tall and very athletic.? T.J. Williams, North Carolina St. 6021 261 * Solid and strong.Offensive Linemen? Will Allen, Texas 6046 318 * Looked a little soft.? Daryn Colledge, Boise St. 6040 295 * Long and very lean.? Ryan Cook, New Mexico 6061 332 * Real soft and flabby.? Mike Degory, Florida 6052 301 * Carries his weight well.? Cody Douglas, Tennessee 6043 317 * Flabby and very soft.? D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia 6054 297 * Tall and lean with long arms.? Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia 6035 358 * Huge and real soft.? Davin Joseph, Oklahoma 6022 304 * VERY solid.? Taitusi Lutui, Southern Cal 6031 338 * Not nearly as big as expected.? Nick Mangold, Ohio St. 6032 297 * Looked solid and sturdy.? Marcus McNeill, Auburn n/a n/a * NOT IN ATTENDANCE? Ryan O'Callaghan, California 6061 347 * Big but carries it very well.? Marvin Philip, California 6010 307 * Barrell chester.? Jonathan Scott, Texas 6061 310 * Very tall and a little flabby.? Mark Setterstrom, Minnesota 6032 313 * Big and slightly flabby.? Charles Spencer, Pittsburgh 6045 338 * Huge and pretty flabby.? Albert Toeaina, Tennessee 6047 338 * Big but carries his weight.? Jeremy Trueblood, Boston College 6077 316 * Tall and extremely lean.? Eric Winston, Miami (FL) 6063 302 * Lean and can easily add weight.Defensive Linemen? Victor Adeyanju, Indiana 6037 268 * Was huge and looked very strong.? Mark Anderson, Alabama 6037 254 * Looked lean and cut.? Brodrick Bunkley, Florida St. 6023 300 * Cut and carries his weight VERY well.? Elvis Dumervil, Louisville 5112 258 * Had a beer belly!? Dusty Dvoracek, Oklahoma 6024 301 * Solid and compact.? Tamba Hali, Penn St. 6022 267 * Looked extremely cut.? Parys Haralson, Tennessee 6007 250 * Small but cut. LB to me.? Orien Harris, Miami (FL) 6030 302 * Carries his weight well.? Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College 6052 262 * Tall with very long arms.? Manny Lawson, North Carolina St. 6050 240 * Tall, lean and athletic.? Jonathan Lewis, Virginia Tech 6007 304 * Has a fireplug build.? Jesse Mahelona, Tennessee 6000 311 * Looked a little flabby.? Babatunde Oshinowo, Stanford 6013 302 * Stout, solid and cut.? Darryl Tapp, Virginia Tech 6012 257 * Looked very strong and cut.? Gabe Watson, Michigan 6032 341 * Big, strong and athletic.? Kyle Williams, L.S.U. 6010 295 * Looked pretty soft.? Kamerion Wimbley, Florida St. 6033 245 * Solid and VERY cut.Linebackers? Jon Alston, Stanford 6001 218 * Small but built.? Chad Greenway, Iowa 6021 242 * Solid and very athletic.? Spencer Havner, U.C.L.A. 6027 239 * Looked lean and athletic.? Abdul Hodge, Iowa 5116 233 * Strong and solid w/barrell chest.? Thomas Howard, U.T.E.P. 6027 234 * Lean and extremely athletic.? Clint Ingram, Oklahoma 6013 240 * Strong, cut and athletic.? Brian Iwuh, Colorado 5115 227 * Looked like a LB to me.? D'Qwell Jackson, Maryland 6002 228 * Strong and very cut.? Freddie Roach, Alabama 6015 255 * Very thick and solid.? DeMeco Ryans, Alabama 6011 229 * Looked pretty thin.? Gerris Wilkinson, Georgia Tech 6026 234 * Very solid and built.? Travis Williams, Auburn 5114 217 * Small but strong and cut.Defensive Backs? Jahmile Addae, West Virginia 5097 201 * Very solid and looked strong.? Will Blackmon, Boston College 5116 200 * Looked strong and athletic.? Greg Blue, Georgia 6017 220 * Solid build and very cut.? Daniel Bullocks, Nebraska 6004 209 * Very big and cut physically.? Cedric Griffin, Texas 6001 192 * Not very physically impressive.? Roman Harper, Alabama 5116 194 * Was not very cut.? Tye Hill, Clemson 5092 183 * Looked very strong and solid.? Marcus Hudson, North Carolina St. n/a n/a * ARRIVED LATE? Darrell Hunter, Miami (OH) 5116 205 * Looked strong and athletic.? Kelly Jennings, Miami (FL) 5105 171 * Frail but was pretty cut.? Tim Jennings, Georgia 5077 178 * Small but solid and cut.? DeMario Minter, Georgia 5110 189 * Frail and not real cut.? Anwar Phillips, Penn St. 5111 187 * Looked relatively strong.? David Pittman, Northwestern St. 5107 177 * Slight but athletic build.? Anthony Smith, Syracuse 5114 192 * Cut and pretty solid build.? Pat Watkins, Florida St. 6042 205 * Very tall but kind of thin.Kickers / Punters? Stephen Gostkowski, Memphis 6007 214? Thomas Olmsted, Troy 6033 212? John Torp, Colorado 6016 206? Deric Yaussi, Wyoming 5112 197
     
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    1/24/06 - My notes. Players who looked good<u>DeAngelo Williams / RB / Memphis</u> Looked good picking up the blitz against guys like DeMeco Ryans, and showed good hands and a burst of speed.<u>Demetrius Williams / WR / Oregon</u> Continues to look very solid and productive, shows good speed and hands. I still think he's a 3rd round WR because the fact not many teams are in seach of a WR early on.<u>Maurice Stovall / WR / Notre Dame</u> Wow, didn't know he had moves like that. He's been very physical and showes very good hands. Great 3rd round opition for any team.<u>Max Jean - Gilles / OG / Georgia</u> Pushed people like Manny Lawson around like he was a practice squad player. Big and physical, not bad.<u>Jay Culter / QB / Vanderbilt</u> Really, really calmed down. Showed again his strong arm hitting WR's like Jason Avant in the chest and almost knocked over Travis Wilson. I like this kid, except still shows shackiness on the run.<u>DeMeco Ryans / LB / Alabama</u> Pushed around the lineman in front of him and got the QB a lot in the 1 on 1 drills.Players who didn't look all that good<u>Sklyer Green / WR / LSU</u> Awful hands, he's droping almost everything thrown at him. His stock is falling by the hour, he's on the practice field. Fell way off the first day to me.<u>Jason Avant / WR / Michigan</u> Best hands in the draft but runs slow and awful routes and I'm sorry you won't make the NFL doing that.<u>Jesse Malehona / DT / Tennessee</u> Looks kinda lost, getting pushed around and not looking like himself, I heard he took his helmet off in anger and almost cried (according to <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>draftstudio.com</span>) <u>Gabe Watson / DT / Michigan</u> Wow is he fat or what? Well he looks it, he can't move, can't take on blocks, can't do anything.there it is..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HandZ19 @ Jan 24 2006, 05:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><u>Maurice Stovall / WR / Notre Dame</u> Wow, didn't know he had moves like that. He's been very physical and showes very good hands. Great 3rd round opition for any team.</div> That's my boy, I hope Samardzija goes to the NFL next year too.
     
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    Whatd I say lol,DEANGELO OWNS!
     
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    Actually, I thought Gabe Watson looked quite impressive today by what i saw of him on ESPN. Guy was really a force to be reckoned with with his size and strength...maybe there was more of him that I didnt get to see, but he looked impressive to me.
     
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    Yeah. Well maybe I caught him on a bad series of drills. After Claude Wrotten got arrested Watson needs a good Senior Bowl week.
     
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    Yo Ven0m, I was watching it the practice on ESPN today and Cutler actually looks great. I think you'd be lucky if you can draft him.
     
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    Here is the South Notes from NFLDraftScout.com.....Quarterback: Ugh. Brodie Croyle may have felt the pressure today as hundreds of Alabama fans were in attendance. Croyle showed a decent arm, but was generally inaccurate with his passes, especially during the late scrimmage. He will need to improve as the week goes on to be drafted on the first day, as some teams had him pegged coming into this week. Georgia's DJ Shockley threw some terrific passes today, showing a strong arm and the athleticism to escape pressure. That said, he also threw some horrific passes, never showing enough consistent accuracy to make teams feel he can someday be a winning pro quarterback. The most impressive thrower on the day was Alabama-Birmingham's Darrell Hackney. While he is considerably shorter and wider than teams want at the position, Hackney has an easy throwing motion and throws a very catchable ball. His passes were generally accurate and he showed nice touch, often taking advantage of his two talented tight ends down the seams. Running Back: I generally try to scout running backs late during the practice week, or even wait until the game, itself, but the explosiveness of the this group (and the relatively disappointing showing by the quarterbacks) kept my eyes shifting. DeAngelo Williams is simply a magical runner, bursting in and out of holes and showing the agility to break the long run every time he touches the ball. As we projected, LSU's Joseph Addai enjoyed a strong start, as well. The biggest of the South backs, Addai explodes through holes with the best of them, while also having the size and physicality to run in the interior. Addai could be cementing a first round selection this week. Offensive Line: A few of the biggest names at the position line up for the South team and this was an area of focus for me today. Eric Winston isn't yet back to his former self, but has played well enough to alleviate concerns that he'll never regain his form. Winston showed good (not great) agility and uses his hands well to ward off defenders. He consistently kept his man away from the quarterback. Both Marcus McNeill and Jonathan Scott continued to be the enigmas that frustrated scouts throughout their careers. McNeill, in particular, is a monstrous man and as a talented basketball player, has the athleticism to dominate. That said, McNeill plays so high and often gets lazy, leaning into his opponent and making him vulnerable to quick spins and other counter moves. Jonathan Scott has shown tremendous physicality, at times. He, too, plays high and struggles a bit when he isn't able to knock the defender back with a strong hand punch, but has all of the tools teams are looking for.Georgia's Max Jean-Gilles is a dominating presence on the inside. He isn't without his technical flaws, as he can be beaten when his initial hand punch and footwork don't stagger his opponent immediately, but Jean-Gilles' strength and mass is simply too much for the defensive linemen here to handle.Not enough was seen of Mike Degory, Will Allen, Ryan Cook, or Albert Toeaina to accurately grade them. These players will obviously be a focus tomorrow.Defensive Line: Though I scouted the North team yesterday, scouts across the league I spoke with who viewed the South's practice were abuzz with the play of Brodrick Bunkley and to a lesser extent Mark Anderson. Some went so far as to call Bunkley the best player on the South squad. Bunkley was impressive today, showing the burst and strength we spoke of in previewing some of the nation's most underrated performers. That said, if his play today matched that of yesterday, than it wasn't his best. Bunkley too often got a great initial surge, only to lose track of the ball and run himself out of the play. Anderson played with better strength at the point of attack than many give him credit for, and is a legitimate athlete, showing speed to the flanks. He has helped himself as much as any defender here, thus far, according to league sources.NC State's Manny Lawson has spectacular speed off the edge, but lacks size and strength at the point of attack. That said, he has been terrific as a pass rusher, beating Eric Winston and Marcus McNeill repeatedly with his burst. Though he has the height to add more weight, Lawson is an extremely toned player, whose body may not be able to much "good" mass without a considerable drop in speed. Lawson's NFL position could very well prove to a 3-4 rush linebacker.Kamerion Wimbley and Parys Haralson each showed good speed off the edge, but struggled when engaged by the offensive tackle.Kyle Williams and Orien Harris made a few plays during the scrimmage, but weren't very impressive during drills. Neither shows much in terms of pass rush agility. Williams plays with solid technique to make up for his lack of athleticism. Jesse Mahelona, on the other hand, showed super burst as a pass rusher, but struggled during the scrimmage. His natural leverage helps him explode through gaps and create instant penetration, but offensive linemen quick enough to get their hands on him too easily are able to push him to the ground, eliminating him from the play.The most disappointing prospect was Louisville's Elvis Dumervil. As mentioned in previous reports, Dumervil isn't a true speed rusher, taking advantage more of determined play and natural leverage on his way towards leading the nation in sacks. That said, the offensive tackles here have toyed with him, leaving him sinking fast down draft boards.Linebacker: DeMeco Ryans and Thomas Howard each showcased the pure speed NFL teams are looking for in today's outside linebackers. A rarity, each looked better in coverage than in coming up to support the run. Ryans engaged blockers, but struggled to fight through them. He was adept at creating piles for other defenders to make the play, but didn't make enough on his own and simply wasn't as impressive as expected. Howard's great speed in coverage is almost a negative against the run as he too often tries to run around blocks and ends up taking himself out of the plays as often as he makes the tackle.UCLA's Spencer Havner showed the instincts and physicality that made him a standout in the Pac 10 throughout his career. While he lacks the speed of the other linebackers mentioned, Havner is seemingly always in the right place at the right time.Freddie Roach wasn't quite as instinctive as Havner, but showed similar physicality at the point of attack. Like Havner, Roach is probably a two down performer at the next level, consistently struggling to keep up with the faster backs and tight ends while in coverage.Gerris Wilkinson and Travis Williams generally struggled throughout the practice. Wilkinson went down late with an apparent leg injury, though it did not appear to be of a serious nature.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>DeAngelo Williams is simply a magical runner, bursting in and out of holes and showing the agility to break the long run every time he touches the ball.</div>Best quote of the year [​IMG]
     
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    Love how they don't have any WR facts, well that were I come in. [​IMG]
     
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    That's 'cause there isn't many WRs in the draft.
     
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    What? There are 1,000 's of WR's in this draft, every WR in the country who's a Senior is. I think you meant not many good WR's. Then in that case, your right.
     

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