Exclusive Vote who is most responsible for this pathetic Blazers team

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SharpesTriumph, Jan 10, 2023.

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Your opinion?

  1. Dame

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  2. Simons

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Billups

    5 vote(s)
    14.7%
  4. Cronin

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%
  5. Jody

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%
  6. Olshey

    13 vote(s)
    38.2%
  7. CJ

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Nurk

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Meyers

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Vote for who and post why.
     
  2. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Meyers because Meyers.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This team still has the stink of Neil on it.

    With that said, the buck stops with ownership.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Brook O
     
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    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    Bert needs to be on here.
     
  6. BassPlaya

    BassPlaya Puntificator

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    The Tri-Lateral commission.
     
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  7. wizenheimer

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    * Olshey spent almost a decade building unbalanced rosters with very little length and poor trade value

    * Olshey spend over 340M dollars in contracts in 2016 for a group of players that had only one legitimate starter and no all-star in sight

    * Olshey took a team that had made it to the WCF and dismantled the supporting cast in one off-season to replace that cast with Hassan Whiteside, Melo, Kent Bazemore, Mario Hezonja, and Anthony Tolliver; one of the biggest ego-driven debacles in Portland GM history

    * Olshey already had a length deprived roster with defensive deficits when he traded for a poor defensive 6'3 player he intenionally plugged into the starting SF position

    * Olshey spent 7 first round picks, that's right, 7 first round picks, for Afflalo, Zach, Swanigan, RoCo, & Nance.

    Anybody who thinks that a GM who did all that, especially pissing away 7 first round picks in 6 years, is not responsible for the situation, while the GM who has had less than a year to correct everything is responsible, is simply wrong

    by the way, this is a partial list of the players available in the draft when the picks Olshey traded away came up:

    Malik Beasley
    Caris LeVert
    Pascal Siakam
    Dejounte Murray
    Ivica Zubac
    Malcolm Brogdon
    Georges Niang
    Donovan Mitchell
    Bam Adebayo
    John Collins
    Jarrett Allen
    OG Anunoby
    Kyle Kuzma
    Derrick White
    Josh Hart
    Thomas Bryant
    Isaiah Hartenstein
    Dillon Brooks
    Isaiah Stewart
    Saddiq Bey
    Tyrese Maxey
    Immanuel Quickley
    Jaden McDaniels
    Desmond Bane
    Bones Hyland
    Santi Aldama
    Herbert Jones
    Ayo Dosunmu

    and the pain isn't over until the pick owed Chicago conveys
     
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  8. riverman

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    against the Magic we shot 17% from 3 ...that's why we're losing games...we can't shoot 3's anymore and we turn over the ball way too much...plus Chauncey can't coach an endgame.
     
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    Nah. This team isn't pathetic to me. They are only getting it going.

    You should add a response that says. "This thread will not age well".
     
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  10. bigbailes

    bigbailes Well-Known Member

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    I went with NO for all of the reasons listed above.
     
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  11. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Unrealistic expectations by fans. If you thought this was a team that was going to kill it this season, you weren’t using common sense. This team isn’t pathetic really, it’s right on course for the level of talent on the roster to be honest. But what do I know, right FAMS.
     
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    Oshley mainly but Cronin has done a poor job also. All spearheaded by Jody. Sell the team ffs that’s what Paul wanted.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    She has Bert whispering poison in her ear.
     
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    I think it has to be Olshey. He stuck with the Dame/CJ combo for way too long and then left it so the most valuable three players on the team were Dame, CJ and Ant. I don't think it was realistic to expect Cronin to move Ant before re-signing him and get good value in return. I also don't think it was realistic to think Cronin would be ready to trade Ant before he saw a Dame/Ant back court. If the trade deadline comes and goes and the Dame/Ant back court isn't addressed along with our lack of size on the bench and the way Nurk is a misfit in Chauncey's system on defense then the blame shifts to Cronin.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    The Blazers have sucked since we got a cat for a mascot.
     
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    the problem with that seems to be an assumption that a good trade for Simons will be available in the next month. There very well may not be. And if there isn't, just trading Ant for a weak 'subtraction-by-addition' trade is going to bring out the pitchforks, again, while not upgrading the roster or solving any issues

    I'm not quite as ready to give up on the Dame/Ant combo as you are. Maybe Cronin isn't either? So I'd suggest, if there is not some great trade package available for Ant the Blazers should at least try to upgrade the bench while exploring the trade market for other players (I'm assuming that exploration is already ongoing). Complicating it all is one of the lasting legacies of Olshey and that's the fact that all of Portland's available future 1st round picks are encumbered by the idiotic Nance trade

    it also doesn't help that Portland is hard-capped because of a 6'2 guard when what the Blazers desperately needed last summer was more length. And we're seeing, especially lately, that Portland's length deficit is losing them games
     
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    Is that the name of the new Mascot?
     
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