Game Thread 2022-23 Game #41 - BLAZERS VS CAVALIERS - JANUARY 12, 2023 - THURSDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) ROOT

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    logic.

    it escapes you.
     
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    Tince Well-Known Member

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    What's your realistic plan to replace Dame's production? What gives you confidence we'll be able to identify, accquire, and retain that level of talent?
     
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    Dames contract is massive before two years from now. I thought it was Stotts. Or Neil. Or Joe C. It’s Billups? Or CJ?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    what?

    what is dame's contract stopping this team from getting this year?

    if anything the GP2 deal and hard capping ourselves for that clueless contract is far more of a handcuffing than dame's 42 mil.
     
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    We wont, there are no guarantees. But we are guaranteed not to win a title as currently constructed. It’s called taking a chance for something greater over a decade of continued mediocrity.
     
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    I don’t think so. The last 5 games were supposed to be our tear. People were talking winstreak with this schedule. Instead, we’re 0-5. We’re done. Trade Dame for injured AD. Tank. Roll with Simons/Sharpe/Grant/AD/Wembenyama next year. A couple years of seasoning and they’d make regular appearances in the NBA Finals.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Now I was told I didn’t know what I was talking about when I said Nurk should NOT be shooting 3s. Hmm
     
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    Chauncey admitted he should've went back to GP2 down the stretch.
     
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    are you aware that the first year of his extension comes in the season AFTER new media deals, including lucrative international streaming rights are signed? And that projections of the salary cap in 2025 with no smoothing (like last time) are in the 170-190M range. If it is 190M, Dame will be making about 30% of the cap instead of 35%; at 180M, that's 32% of the cap, which is about the level of his current salary vs the current cap. The conservative number of 171M has Dame's salary as 34% of the cap. People have been acting like his extension is going to be half of the cap

    now, those cap projections are for the impact of the new TV deals. I've seen speculation that streaming rights deals could add another 10-20M to the salary cap on top of the 170-190M

    going by the rumors and conjecture, this new round of media deals should increase the cap by at least the same amount as the media deals in 2016. That increase was 34.5%. The current cap is 134M. That was up 11M from last season. If the 2024-25 salary cap is, for instance, 145M and the media deal bump in 34.5%, the cap would be 195M; and Dame's share of the cap would be 29.8%.

    the owners will want smoothing. The player will almost certainly reject smoothing...like last time
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I was also told Nurk should shoot 3s/ the refs are the reason we are losing/Nurk is playing like shit because of Billups/and our bench was better than the Clippers.
    Can’t always believe what you’re told FAMS.
     
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    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    I wish I could hear what was going on in GP 1's head when he was watching that last quarter.
     
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    I think guys who make $35-$45m a year should be guys who are the centerpiece of a championship team. I don’t think Lillard is that guy. Scoring point guards who are low level defenders don’t win championships as their main guy. Name one besides Curry who is top 2 PG ever and the best shooter ever, who also has other hall of famers with him. He’s incredible and I’m fine if they keep him until he retires, as long as being a middling team annually is ok.
     
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    since that high water game when Nurk hit 5-7 three's and some people were saying he should keep shooting or even shoot more, he's gone 2-17
     
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    Grant is shooting worse
     
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    Yet not in the playoffs again.
     
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    Let me try this for a 3rd time: What's your realistic plan to replace Dame's production?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    So we should just give up then and tank? Without ever successfully building a compatible roster around the guy? He's still in his prime. This guy isn't a washed scrub.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Why are you wasting your time?
     
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    I should ask you the same question! :cheers:
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Good call. Think im done venting.
     
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