<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Edwards thinks T.O. is good fit</span>BY ELIZABETH MERRILLKnight Ridder NewspapersKANSAS CITY, Mo. For those who gasped when they found out the Chiefs were interested in talking to Terrell Owens, or wondered whether Kansas City was feigning interest to drive up the price on AFC rival Denver, the answer came Wednesday in Herm Edwards' eyes.Edwards talked in his office for 20 minutes about talent, second chances and championships. And he said a meeting between the Eagles' troublesome receiver and the Chiefs may happen soon."He's a talented guy," Edwards said. "He knows how to win. That's the great thing about the offseason. It's like building a house. You go through the draft, through free-agency and collectively get all these guys together and say, `What is the best house I can build right now?' You don't discard anything."Talk is free. You never know what's going to happen after you talk. There's always a perception about a guy until you actually sit down and talk with him."T.O. was all the talk in Kansas City on Wednesday, one day after Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told The Star the franchise was "somewhat interested" in Owens, a five-time Pro Bowler. Chiefs fans' reaction ranged from outrage to intrigue. The talk appears to have started last week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., when Owens' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, sought out the Chiefs.It was an odd twist for Edwards, who was hired last month in Kansas City. Ten years ago, the Senior Bowl is where Edwards, then a scout, first spotted Owens."I remember it like it was yesterday," Edwards said. "He got his cleats to the ground, and you could tell he was a powerful man. He was like a young colt. Very raw. You could see he was very competitive. Very competitive. And obviously, he became who he became."By Wednesday, the T.O. saga had become the circus outside of the circus in Detroit. Owens reportedly met with Denver on Monday. Peterson was expected to talk to his coach sometime before he left for Motown late this week. Whispers of Owens' arrival there were bandied about Wednesday, around the same time that one of the Chiefs' marquee players, tight end Tony Gonzalez, told a gaggle of reporters he'd welcome the troublesome receiver."I know T.O, and he's a guy who wants to be competitive, wants to play hard, and if they brought him in, I'd have no problem with that," Gonzalez said after appearing at a function promoting the Pro Bowl."It would bother me if (Owens) came in and started doing the same things he was doing in Philly. The way to keep a guy like Terrell Owens happy is you've got to throw him the ball, which I have no problem with. He's a great player. To me, he's probably one of the top two receivers in the league."But therein lies the second biggest question - with one ball, could the Chiefs keep three Pro Bowlers happy? Running back Larry Johnson yearned for the ball for two seasons before he finally got his chance to start and break records after Priest Holmes' season-ending neck injury. Holmes is expected to be back, too, if doctors determine that he's neurologically sound. And then there's Gonzalez, who caught 78 passes last season, which was 24 fewer than his NFL-leading 102 in 2004. At least twice last season, he expressed disappointment in his role in the offense.But he emphasized Wednesday that "there's enough to go around" if the Chiefs acquired Owens."I'd be frustrated, but I tell you what, if he can get us to the Super Bowl," Gonzalez said, "then I'm all for it. Terrell Owens, you have to understand what type of person he is. I'm friends with him off the field. I understand what type of person he is. Don't come and put all these expectations on him, because more than likely he's not going to change too much. But I think a guy like Herm Edwards, from what I've heard, can handle a guy like this."For him to come in, I know Trent Green would love throwing it down the sidelines to him, and that would open things up for all of us if we use the passing game effectively, it would work out, especially with Larry Johnson in the backfield. We'd be one of those offenses, I don't know what you would do to stop us, because I'm going to work the middle, he's going to work the outside, and Larry Johnson runs the ball. On paper, it looks like it could be something special."Edwards knows it would be a tough balance, but he's confident the Chiefs' veteran locker room could handle it. He also knows all the talent in the NFL doesn't automatically equate to Super Bowls.He used an analogy of the 76ers in the 1970s. As a young cornerback for Philly at the time, Edwards followed the exploits of Dr. J, Maurice Cheeks and George McGinnis. Those teams had great talent, he said. They didn't win any championships."Sometimes, at the end of the day, it's about the team and how does the team function," Edwards said."I think it's good when you get a bunch of stars. The thing that stars realize is you've got to control your ego. When stars can't control their ego, you can't win. Well, this team has done a good job of that. Guys are going to have egos, but they don't put their egos in front of the team."Edwards, Peterson said, is a master at getting 53 men with diverse backgrounds, egos and incomes to come together as a team. And maybe that's why Edwards wasn't surprised that Owens' people sought him out.When Edwards coached the New York Jets, he considered adding Owens and chatted with Randy Moss, another megatalented receiver with heavy baggage. In 2005, he added troublesome cornerback Ty Law to the Jets' roster. Some Jets fans cringed at the idea. Law, who bragged about deserving big money, backed it up with 10 interceptions."I can deal with any type of player because I've been in this league a long time," Edwards said. "I understand players pretty well. I can communicate to them. I've had them all call me ... Randy Moss, all of them."One thing about America is that it gives people second chances. Sometimes you get a third."</div>He says he is willing to put up with talk, and has had success with loud-mouth players. I'm excited.
Herm couldnt control Ty Law, what chance does he have with TO? Ty Law skipped meetings, and did whatever he felt like all season long and Herm didnt do a damn thing about it.
Show me where it says Law wasn't able to be controled...I don't believe it, and the whole reason T.O. was complaining in San Francisco and Philly was because of the organization. The Chiefs have the best organization in football, and I think he would be a good fit in KC this year.
I actually think that TO will land in Kansas City. It is a perfect fit for the Chiefs if they can keep him under control. Green, Gonzalez, TO, Kennison, Johnson, and Holmes. One word for that offense: WOW
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PatsWillBeBack @ Feb 3 2006, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually think that TO will land in Kansas City. It is a perfect fit for the Chiefs if they can keep him under control. Green, Gonzalez, TO, Kennison, Johnson, and Holmes. One word for that offense: WOW</div>And 5 of the 6 you listed are getting old really quickly...their ages for next season...Terrell Owens - 33Trent Green - 36Eddie Kennison - 34Tony Gonzalez - 30Priest Holmes - 33Tony Richardson - 35Willie Roaf - 36Will Shields - 35Casey Wiegmann - 33John Welbourn - 30That would be what, 9 out of their 11 starters on offense are (or are going to be) over 30? The Chiefs window is closing and do you really think Herman Edwards will be able to replace them with a high powered offense? As for Ty Law, ill look to dig up the article later today.
For future refferences, please leave a source (link) to the article. Anyway, I've heard a couple different T.O. senarios, and the only one I like is the Denver senario. He's the type of player that can put us over the top, no matter what his history is, I'll take him.
The Topic of this post should be "TO had a talk with the Chiefs"Because we know the Chiefs didnt get a word in!
TO still has alot of productive years ahead of him. Kansas city would be a good fit and I think Herm would control TO knowing what he can do. Herm is a tough coach and i dont think he'll let TO be a cancer. This offense would be the best in the league if they get TO. You can pick your poison, the run or the pass. They could be the colts of 2 years ago. If i were the chiefs i would trade Priest for some draft picks. Larry Johnson is a rising and Priest is just injury prone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Feb 3 2006, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Herm is a tough coach</div>LMAO!!!!!! Herm Edwards makes Dick Vermeil's manlove coaching style look like Bill Parcells.
I know you have some harsh feelings for Herm but did'nt he take the jets to the playoffs 3 times. Last year they shouldve went to the AFC championship game but O'brien missed crucial fg's. Herm can also see sort of where TO is coming from. I think its a good fit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Showtime @ Feb 3 2006, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Herm wouldnt be able to control himShanahan would</div>I think Herm is going after TO because he doesn't wante Denver to have more power in the AFC West.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Feb 3 2006, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know you have some harsh feelings for Herm but did'nt he take the jets to the playoffs 3 times. Last year they shouldve went to the AFC championship game but O'brien missed crucial fg's. Herm can also see sort of where TO is coming from. I think its a good fit.</div>That had nothing to do with harsh feelings, but Herm is the softest, biggest players coach this league has to offer and you were acting like he was Bill Parcells. PS: Yes, we made the playoffs 3 times under him, but our best season was 10-6, he had an overall losing record as a coach, and a losing record in the playoffs, and we were a much better team when he entered then we are right now. It was time for him to go, and the Chiefs wanted to give us a draft pick for him. Herm Edwards will NEVER win a superbowl, that much is obvious to any Jets fan because it takes the ability to out-gameplan the opponents and that has never happened in 5 years of him being the Jets coach. Not to mention he makes the same stupid mistakes like Clock Management Errors now that he did 5 years ago, you would think someone would learn from his mistakes, not repeat them constantly.
exactly^thats why I think he will end in KC. If he ends up in KC, great. If he doesn't, great.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Owens is expected to soon meet with Kansas City and Miami. The Broncos are not yet convinced Owens is the answer to the team's quest for a two-win improvement in 2006.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Feb 3 2006, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Feb 3 2006, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know you have some harsh feelings for Herm but did'nt he take the jets to the playoffs 3 times. Last year they shouldve went to the AFC championship game but O'brien missed crucial fg's. Herm can also see sort of where TO is coming from. I think its a good fit.</div>That had nothing to do with harsh feelings, but Herm is the softest, biggest players coach this league has to offer and you were acting like he was Bill Parcells. PS: Yes, we made the playoffs 3 times under him, but our best season was 10-6, he had an overall losing record as a coach, and a losing record in the playoffs, and we were a much better team when he entered then we are right now. It was time for him to go, and the Chiefs wanted to give us a draft pick for him. Herm Edwards will NEVER win a superbowl, that much is obvious to any Jets fan because it takes the ability to out-gameplan the opponents and that has never happened in 5 years of him being the Jets coach. Not to mention he makes the same stupid mistakes like Clock Management Errors now that he did 5 years ago, you would think someone would learn from his mistakes, not repeat them constantly.</div>Tough Coach, Players coach, However you put it. Herm has the power to control TO in ways Marriucci or Reid couldnt. Herm is a former player and probably will try to sort out TO's problem. Add to that, TO hasnt played competitive football in a while. He cant wait to get in a new jersey and play football. i think with the time off, he finally realized he has to stop being a baby and finish off his career a winner. He blew his chance to win a SB with the eagles. As for Herm, the Jets have been injury prone since forever. Chad Pennington, Fielder, Mawae, Barton, etc. Herm hasnt had the healthy staff he's been hoping for. Also you can blame the sudden change of OC's every year. It went from Hackett to Heimerdinger. Its hard for the players to learn all these offenses. Their defense wasnt top notch either. Curtis Martin just didnt show up this year either. Its sad to think the Jets have a better shot with Mangini than with Herm. Your opinion.
Yea, the only reason Herm couldn't get past the Wild-Card is because he never had a GOOD QB. Don't even try telling me that Pennington is a good QB.
Primetime.27,When Pennington is healthy, he is a damn good QB.How many QB's do you know that have in their career65.3% completion percentage (Trent Green is 60.7%)92.1 QB rating (Trent Green is 88.3)55 TD - 30 INT (Trent Green is 150-92 (similar ratios))7.34 Yards Per Attempt (Trent Green is 7.70)Not to mention the most impressive stat that ive ever heard of, is that Chad Pennington has NEVER thrown an interception in the redzone in his career. He has a ratio something along the lines of 40 Touchdowns - 0 INT in the red zone.The problem is that Chad Pennington isnt ever healthy.________________________Gotskillz52,1) Up until this year, the only players we had on our roster who were considered 'injury prone' were Pennington and Abraham. Herm has always had a relatively injury free roster outside of those 2 players. This year was more of a fluke when we were hit with the injury bug. 2) We went the first 4 years of Herm's regime with Paul Hackett as our offensive coordinator, and even Chiefs fans can tell me that this guy is clueless (since he used to be their OC). So we got rid of Hackett and brought in a real offensive coordinator in Heimerdinger. I dont see anything wrong with that plan when we were expected to be serious contenders.3) Our Defense was #7 in the league 2 years ago, and #12 last year. They get the job done.Chiefs fans will learn quickly that this guy is a joke and a fraud as a head coach. Have fun with him.
Maybe i'll reconsider, but wtf, Pennington hasn't been healthy for a full season in his career, lol. That would be WHY they haven't got past the first round. There we go...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Primetime.27 @ Feb 4 2006, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe i'll reconsider, but wtf, Pennington hasn't been healthy for a full season in his career, lol. That would be WHY they haven't got past the first round. There we go...</div>I would normally agree with you, but the only year where he was playing hurt in the postseason was 2004. Ive watched all of the playoff games, our struggles in them were the direct result of being outcoached, out-gameplanned, with a touch of poor execution mixed in. 2 of the 3 tie directly to the head coach.
