Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't see it that way. If there's nothing medically wrong with him, but he has lingering soreness or pain, that's not really on the team. He played for the Warriors with the same damn injury last year. He himself said that this was as good as it's going to get. The whole thing is bullshit. I would bet money that if the hit piece hadn't come out on him, none of this would have been leaked.
     
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    are you saying the Blazers didn't tell the Warriors about the injections?

    by the way, how many injections were there...do you know?
     
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    And what were they for? Soreness? What was his pain level? Was he being soft? Dame and Ant sure alluded to him being soft.
     
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    According to Marks, the NBA has a database where teams can upload and review all medical records.

    Unless the Blazers deliberately withheld something and were non-compliant, then this is just biased reporting coming out of GS. Let the league review what was and wasn't on the records then I'll believe this accusation.

     
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  5. Natebishop3

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    Like I said, I would bet money that if the negative press about Payton hadn't come out after the trade, none of this goes public. I think GSW and Payton are trying to save face.
     
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    Look until this gets cleared up it makes us look bad but I'm not gonna lie I'm loving this drama because GPII is a fucking prick and GSW is being whiny bitches and Im laughing at it all.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    lol they have Woj involved too
     
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    it should be extremely easy to prove

    the Warriors need to back that up by rescinding the trade
     
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    Here's the odd part: medical cleared him and then GPII still didn't play for like 3 more weeks. Lol.

    He's an adult. He's a bench player. They aren't going to force an adult bench player to play. He's not an impact player, just a conniving ass lol.
     
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    if the Blazers withheld medical information on Payton then yeah, those responsible would need to go....ASAP. And Cronin does not get a pass under any circumstance. The buck stops at his desk. It would need a full house cleaning because every other front office in the league would view the Blazers as toxic. And so would all the players in the league
     
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    I don’t buy it.
     
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    Yeah telling them he is in a lot of pain probably would not have been the best sales pitch. It would have been a deal breaker. But watching him on the bench and watching him on the floor against the Lakers, who would have thought he was? Not me. Most people grimace a little when they are in pain. Seems odd
     
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    That’s why I think it’s his ego. He got slammed hard and then suddenly he’s too hurt to play? Horse shit. This is counter-mud slinging.
     
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    the level of pain is a pretty subjective assertion. I don't know how liable the Blazers would be for saying Payton has pain at a level that is less than what Payton may claim

    the actionable failure to disclose would be if the Blazers concealed that Payton had Toradol injections or if they had an MRI showing that the injury was not corrected by surgery
     
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    link?
     
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    Payton: "OMG, I'm so happy to be back on the Warriors. The Blazers treated me soooo bad. I still have pain in my tummy but they made me play."

    Warriors: "Pain? Tell us about this pain."


    ....

    Payton: "OMG, I'm so happy to be back on the Blazers. The Warriors treated me soooo bad. They overreacted soooo much about my tummy ache."
     
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    Yeah, it looks like he did. I have never seen him shoot that well.
     
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    here is why I was suspicious of the initial 'report:

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    Shams immediately asserted that the reason Payton failed the physical was because the Blazers withheld information. Kind of a guilty-till-proven innocent perspective for a supposed reported to take

    and this:

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    https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-...njury-forced-pain-relief-medication-onto-him/

    I immediately wondered just how it was the Blazers could "force" Payton to do anything. Gun to the head? That they could have pressured him to try injections I might believe. Especially if he was still complaining of pain from inflammation. I'd also be interested in how widespread anti-inflammatory injections are in the NBA

    what I saw in that story was very slanted reporting, and slanted in favor of Payton and the Warriors. That generated skepticism

    seems like this entire thing will pivot on if Portland divulged or concealed the injections. If Portland concealed, then to hell with their front office; clean house but the problem is that those cleaning house might have been part of it all
     
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