Sharpe Comps

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  1. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    We have too many threads about beef. Either we all hate eachother, or we are fat.
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    If Sharpe stays in Portland for a long long time, how many points do you think will he score in that time?

    10.000?
    15.000?
    20.000?
     
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    Depends on how long “a long time” is. If he was here for 11 seasons like Dame, I think he could reach 20k.

    Sharpe will likely be much more efficient than Dame because he can get easier buckets. He’ll likely continue to get better at taking tougher shots. Dame also didn’t start shooting 10+ 3’s a game until four years ago, Sharpe will probably be shooting that many a night by the time he is early in his prime and be just as effective a shooter as Dame.

    But those are also big expectations.
     
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    Dame hasn't reached 20,000 points yet and he's averaged over 25 points a game for 770 games. Dame scored 1562 points as a rookie; Sharpe has scored 745. So Sharpe will be more than 800 points behind Dame's 'pace' after this season. And if Portland keeps Ant next season, it's almost certain Sharpe won't start. Dame has a career FT rate of .346; Sharpe's rate this year is .162. Dame has averaged 5.8 points a game on FT's. Sharpe averaged 0.9; and his small 8 game surge, he averaged 3.6. Assuming 75 games/year, Sharpe would need to average 26 points for the next 10 years to hit the 20,000 point plateau. He would have to channel MJ...on steroids

    I really like Sharpe's upside, a lot. But Dame is Portland's all time scoring leader; he's the best player in franchise history, especially on offense. To suggest, from the extremely limited perspective at this point, that Sharpe will surpass Dame just seems a bit bonkers to me
     
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    Wouldn't Sharp be ahead by 745 since we are talking about total points and not an average? Dame didn't play until he was 22. Sharpe could have 5000 points by then.
     
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    very obvious I responded to a post that said Sharpe after 11 seasons, like Dame after 11 seasons, not Sharpe at age 32

    if we're factoring everything Sharpe could be UFA in 6 seasons and might only play 7 seasons as a Blazer
     
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    I hate you “might only play 7 seasons as Blazer”
     
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    yeah. Depends on his rookie extension. That can be 3-5 years. If he only signs for 3 years it's not a good sign. Being able to 'control' a player for 7-9 years is a big reason why the Blazers should value their 1st this season highly. Compare Sharpe's 'known' Blazer future with Grant
     
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    He either signs before he's a free agent or he's traded. Portland should never let that happen with a Star (Honestly, even a starter) again.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Already doing it with Grant right now.
     
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    Didn't really have a choice with Grant. We didn't really have him anyway. He hasn't been established as a Blazer. Still in the dating stage, IMO. But once he signs for 2+ years he should be in that category.

    Just my opinion.
     
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    I just want to see a little more fire out of him. I get it, it's his rookie year, and he didn't get to really compete at the college level.
    I'm introverted myself - no one expects him to have Kobe or MJ energy.

    I do want to see him come out next season with some confidence and more out of his shell. I think he will. High expectations - I love Sharpe and was hoping he'd somehow fall to us once that #7 ball hit us in the lotto.
     
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    I did say those were big expectations to say Sharpe will get to 20k through 11 years.
     
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    yeah, I know and I didn't mean to come across as dismissive, if I was

    that just seemed to be an almost impossible plateau to reach, even with volume scoring apparently being on the upswing
     
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    If anyone has mentioned it, I missed it, but it occurred to me today, we're looking to the past for comparisons when the best one might be the present: LeBron. The frame, fluidity, explosive leaping and finishing ability, affinity for erasing shots emphatically, and deceptively methodical pace of play all fit and are why it's so hard to find a good comparison with anyone else. It's a fairly unique combination.

    Also, people often forget that LeBron faced similar criticism as Shaedon through much of his early career, for lacking outward competitive fire, which was most often evidenced by 4th quarter disappearances.

    Obviously, being 3" shorter, Shaedon won't have that same ability to play 1-4, and it remains to be seen if he ever develops LeBron's level of court vision to be a primary ball handler, but he could be somewhere between that and prime Derick Rose, who physically dominated the position with similar tools.
     

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