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Strenuus

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This is the most important off season we've had in decades.

Will dame ask for a trade by mid season if we falter in this off-season? That's what is on the line.
 
I’d try to buy low on DFS with Keon, Nas, Walker or Watford, and enough 2nds to make the deal work.

DFS and Grant are both good defenders, with Thybulle coming off the bench. That might not be a huge upgrade, but he might be considered enough of a vet that the starting lineup won’t be any worse than Dame/Ant/Hart/Grant/Nurk.

We’ll have to see where Lively ends up, but I think Lively is a good option at backup C, with potential to be the starting C down the line.

BPA with the lotto pick.
 
Bingo Bango said:
So was last year’s offseason more important than this one?
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I’d say last offseason was more important. The best move was drafting Sharpe, who was a huge hit.

With two 1st rounders, I think this offseason will be a more impactful one. So far, the only thing competent under this regime has been the young talent scouting.
 
Assuming the right all-in move doesn’t come along, keep ‘yer lotto pick, swap ‘yer New York pick, use your future assets, filler and potentially Ant, and make 1-2 big time upgrades. Grab vets around the edges, and be obsessed about roster balance and depth—never losing on those things again.
 
1. Sell the team
2. Fire Chauncy
3. Fire Joe

That is the way to go but none of those will likely happen and we'll be stuck right back in mediocrity, unless we get lucky and get the 1 pick
 
Strenuus said:
You said that. Not me.

This actually IS. Because Dame could very feasibly ask for a trade midseason. Last year we didn't realistically have that fear. His talk now does have that feel.
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I’ve been waiting for it to happen. But it never did :(
 
julius said:
I wish that I knew which road they have chosen.
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Build around Dame. That’s been obvious. Youth be damned. Then in 1-2 years when this fails, we will have nothing.
My favorite part is Dame inferring he doesn’t want development players, but he’s fine with a coach that needs development
 
julius said:
I wish that I knew which road they have chosen.
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I’m not sure that it’s set in stone to do the retool around Dame. If the ping pong balls cough up Wemby, keeping a core of Ant, Shaedon and Wemby, cashing in on what Dame could bring in trade, and doing a full rebuild may be pretty enticing. Based on what Dame said today, I doubt he has the patience to deal with another raw, albeit extremely talented, rookie.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Build around Dame. That’s been obvious. Youth be damned. Then in 1-2 years when this fails, we will have nothing.
My favorite part is Dame inferring he doesn’t want development players, but he’s fine with a coach that needs development
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No, sorry, I meant the players they're targeting.
 
Strenuus said:
This is the most important off season we've had in decades.

Will dame ask for a trade by mid season if we falter in this off-season? That's what is on the line.
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I honestly think that if Joe doesn't knock it out of the park around draft day that Dame will go to Jody and ask for Joe to be replaced before free agency starts. By doing this Dame will either get a new GM or they will trade Dame and Dame will be able to say that he wanted to stay loyal but they didn't want him anymore.

All of the stuff he's been saying lately and his most recent songs are saying the he is planning on being here for the rest of his career and Joe needs to do what it takes to make the team competitive immediately.
 
Strenuus said:
You said that. Not me.

This actually IS. Because Dame could very feasibly ask for a trade midseason. Last year we didn't realistically have that fear. His talk now does have that feel.
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Is it really a fear?

I’ve got to say, I kind of hope Dame asks out.

It’s apparent that we have virtually no realistic shot at contending with him.

and we won’t trade him unless he demands it.

here’s what I’d say… the only way this team is a legitimate contender is if we had Giannis with Dame.


what would our team look like after a Giannis trade?


Whatever it is, probably still not good enough to win a chip.
 
joe said they're gonna keep pursuing guys they tried to get at the deadline. he also said there's a few guys on the list the would not even get phones picked up for.

mikal bridges is probably one of those guys. BK isn't gonna trade him.

i'm guessing they'll pursue Cam Johnson in some S&T possibility. and hard cap us again. but we've been linked to him before.

Other names we have been in connection with:

- John Collins
- OG/Siakam
- Vanderbilt
 
One thing outside of Dame and Cronin that stood out for me and maybe I am reading WAY more into it then there is but I think Ant wants to stay but open to leaving. I think he very much open to being traded to a team where he might be the 1st option or at least 1B and right now he might have that next year but even that in not certain with Sharpe and maybe lotto luck. I like Ant but I am not sure even with him being young if he will get much better cause I think he needs to be 1 or 1B to really grow and IF he cannot his ceiling is around where CJ was when he was traded away maybe a tad higher but not much more. I am not saying he SHOULD be traded but it should be explored and done IF the return is right and can help the Blazers get to the next level.

This offseason is a make or break for everything in Ripcity cause the aftershocks of the results will determine if Dame asks out and to me that is what we need to avoid at least for two more years cause that is what I think the window is for this team. They need to put together a Top 3 in the west team in 2 years or you might as well just get what you can for Dame and rebuild and as much as I hate that idea it is what needs to prolly happen.
 
Wasn't there some pictures of Dame and Jerami talking from the year before...maybe we can find something like that this season, with who they're targeting.
 
julius said:
Wasn't there some pictures of Dame and Jerami talking from the year before...maybe we can find something like that this season, with who they're targeting.
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from this afternoon.



draymond is a FA this summer.
 
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