OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: APRIL 2023

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Not this time, but I did almost scream when he was walking by me in the hallway postgame. Talked to Plumlee by the way and he said what’s up to RipCity. Cool cracker right there.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    It was to me personally this past season. Just talkin in the hall.
     
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    Nope. People don’t care about the NBA anymore. David Stern did this. The NBA was tough. It used to be physical. It was about rivalries and stars that wanted to win more than anything. Those days are long gone. Now it’s a bunch of soft socialites who couldn’t care less about winning. Even Dame said it. The league is different and people stopped watching.

    There is so much more out there to watch with streaming. We are inundated with options for entertainment and people aren’t watching anymore.
     
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    I think his contract makes that an unfair question. That's not bench money.

    And besides, I think every single one of us on this planet would rather have Shaedon Sharpe.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think the switch to ESPN/ABC is what sped up the process too. Games on NBC used to mean something, you used to watch those games and feel something. now it's like "here's a game".

    I'm not saying anything negative about them as people, but it's a lot of the presentation that just comes off boring is their personalities. It's funny how many of them are now into fashion and presenting themselves like they're a "brand", and how the NBA is so desperate for the younger demographic, it's hilarious.

    Not saying they should only target their audience at the 40-65 age group, but it shouldn't be so blatantly tilted towards kids. There is a happy medium, and they've passed that up a long time ago. I know it sounds like I'm just an old man complaining (I'm not), but holy crap the NBA is presented in such a manner that I'd rather just watch stuff on youtube or instagram or tiktok instead of an NBA game.

    The league should stream all their games, and end blackout restrictions and make the games important again.

    There was clearly a time when the league was an owners league and the players had no control over shit. I'm not saying go back to that, but the pendulum has swung so far to over-correct that, that the league as a whole is a joke now. You have 2 states dominating the Western Conference and realistically, no reason to believe you stand a chance at winning a title or competing for one, in basically 12 to 13 cities in the WC? At least the EC has a little bit of parity going in its favor.

    But one of the worst things about the NBA is you have pretty much 25 teams (if not more) that stand no chance of ever winning a title. The NFL is different (I'd say that outside of Lions, Browns and Redskins, the parity in the NFL is good). MLB is different.

    The NBA is different. You'll occasionally have a team that comes out of nowhere (G-State for example...they were a joke of a franchise forever), but for the most part, it's a select few teams and players who migrate to said teams.

    Honestly, the league is strongest when you have multiple teams who can win a title. Small market, medium market, etc.

    The league would be, long term, better off with someone like Victor going to a smaller market team. Charlotte, Indiana or Portland, and not a team like San Antonio or Houston.
     
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    Didn't the NBA set a record this year for attendance? Seems like fans do care. The fact that fans did attend games this year during a tough economic period says a lot.
     
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    I think there's two reasons for this.

    One - superstar treatment. I remember how we beat the Lakers in game 1 of the bubble and then the league proceeded to make it literally impossible to defend Anthony Davis. We couldn't touch him without getting a foul. So why should I watch games when I know how the refereeing will go?

    Two - the changes to salary cap only hurt small market teams. We were able to build contenders in the past because we could spend a ton of Paul's money. Now it's all pointless. So we have no advantage over the Lakers or Warriors or Heat. One star like Dame eats up so much of the cap that we can't go get anyone else. It was better when we could take on massive contractors.
     
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    You can go look at the numbers by decade. The NBA is nowhere near as popular as it was in the 90s. It cratered hard in 2020 and it's trending back up, but it's still low.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings

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    For me the Western Conference has never been more interesting than this season.
    Houston and San Antonio are the only two teams for which I don’t really know much about most of their starters.
     
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    I'm inclined to think those numbers don't include streaming, and without streaming they are bad numbers

    I could be wrong but when have I ever been wrong?
     
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    The NBA finals ratings? I don’t even watch the Finals live much of the time. But I watch every single Trail Blazer game.
    How about worldwide revenue and worldwide viewership?
     
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    Yeah but what happens when Jody sells the team like so many fans want? The odds are not in our favor that it will be to someone who has over 20 billion that would be willing to have the highest payroll like Paul did year after year. There seem to be more ultra-rich owners these days of other teams. Can Portland find one? Seems like it would be someone with few ties to Portland.
     
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    TV Ratings Are Down, but the NBA’s Popularity Isn’t


    https://boardroom.tv/nba-popularity-tv-ratings/


    Viewership numbers obscure the NBA’s growth across several other venues, from social media to sneaker culture to the international market.
     
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    How much of streaming is done illegally too? :lol:
     
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    I think Basketball & Baseball are more regional sports now. People mostly love watching their local team play, and not National games. I watch all Blazers games, and an occasional Rockies game. I give zero F's about watching other games. I do keep up on the Leagues through box scores because of Fantasy Sports. The NFL is just different. Maybe because it's a once a week sport , and because Fantasy Football has become so big. I don't watch a lot of games other than the Broncos. But i do love Redzone when the Broncos aren't playing their game. Because of Fantasy. I wish the NFL TV package was more like the NBA where i could just purchase the Broncos/ Redzone for say 140.00 . That's more doable for my budget. I can't afford 500.00 But the NFL is so big, they give zero F's. They have a license to print money.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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