Re: Ramsey & Gibbs Discussing Options <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Gibbs: Ramsey Talks OngoingBy Gary FitzgeraldRedskins.comFebruary 25, 2006Head coach Joe Gibbs said Saturday that the Redskins continue to discuss options for quarterback Patrick Ramsey. It is uncertain whether Ramsey will return to the Redskins next season.Ramsey is under contract for 2006, so if the team and the fourth-year quarterback part ways, it would likely be through a trade."We're working with Patrick and his agent to see what opportunities are out there for him," Gibbs said during a media session at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. "We're also evaluating what's best for us. I'm not sure anything will get done. We are looking and we're letting them also look and talk."Added Gibbs: "I know where his feelings are and he knows where our feelings are. He's a very important player to us and we've invested a lot in him. But I think we can also say that he's frustrated with his situation over the last couple of years."We've had a good game plan and we've been talking things over. We're moving ahead with it and we'll have to see where it ends. I wouldn't have a guess if something is going to work out or not."Ramsey entered the 2005 regular season as the Redskins' starting quarterback, but he was replaced by 13-year veteran Mark Brunell prior to Week 2. He spent the season as Brunell's backup.In Week 16 against the New York Giants, Ramsey entered the game after Brunell suffered a knee injury early in the second half. Ramsey completed 5-of-7 passes for 104 yards, including a 72-yard touchdown pass to Santana Moss.Gibbs, during an interview with Rich Eisen and Jim More on the NFL Network, said he liked the team's current quarterback depth with Brunell, Ramsey and 2005 first-round draft pick Jason Campbell."To me, I want to make sure we're deep at quarterback," Gibbs said. "I think we are. Until something works out there with Patrick--if it works out--we feel very good about where we are right now. I think we have a good solid quarterback situation."Regarding Brunell, Gibbs said: "When you go back and look at his stats, last season was one of the best years he's ever had. He played extremely well for us. Obviously, Mark is at a point where you have to ask: How many more years is he going to be able to do that? We think he has a couple more years for sure, and he would probably say more than that."</div>http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=8061That last paragraph about Brunell kind of bothers me--CAMPBELL IS NOW, BRUNELL IS THE PAST.
Re: Ramsey & Gibbs Discussing Options Redskins to Deal Ramsey?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Redskins looking to deal QB RamseyBy Len PasquarelliESPN.comIn one of the NFL's worst-kept secrets, Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs has acknowledged that the team is trying to trade former first-round quarterback Patrick Ramsey, and has granted permission to the one-time starter and his agent to seek potential trade suitors as well."We're moving ahead, trying to see what opportunities are out there for him and also evaluating what is best for us," Gibbs allowed. "I'm not sure if anything will get done, but we're looking, and we're letting [agent]Jimmy Sexton look around and talk [to other teams]."There are, however, at least two potential impediments to trading Ramsey, the Redskins' first choice in the 2002 draft, who is still regarded as a quarterback with solid potential.The first is the anticipated glut in the quarterback market, with the possibility that high-profile veterans such as Chad Pennington (New York Jets), Drew Brees (San Diego), Daunte Culpepper (Minnesota) and Brian Griese (Tampa Bay) will be thrust into the free-agent market. A few months ago, none of those players was projected as a free agent but a number of factors, from injuries to salary cap implications, have impacted their respective circumstances.Second, until the last few days, the Redskins were still seeking a second- or third-round pick in return for Ramsey, league sources said. And while that may have been a viable price tag three months ago, a buyer's market and Washington's ham-handed handling of Ramsey have probably reduced his value in the eyes of some teams interested in acquiring the four-year veteran.Indications over the weekend were that the Redskins, who have targeted the New York Jets as a possible trade partner, have dropped the price. But the Jets, who have some interest in a deal, won't move ahead until they resolve the Pennington situation, and determine whether he will accept a proposed salary cut for 2006, or if they will be forced to release him.For now, there is no deal imminent for Ramsey, demonstrating once again that timing is key.A year or two ago, when it became obvious that Gibbs' staff wasn't enamored of Ramsey, the Redskins would almost certainly have commanded a higher price for the former Tulane star. But Washington failed to pull the trigger on a deal when Sexton could have brought them several suitors. Gibbs sold Ramsey on the notion that he would compete for the starting job, then went out and invested a 2005 first-round pick on Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell.Ramsey started the '05 season opener, was pulled in favor of Mark Brunell at halftime, and didn't log another start the rest of the season. The poor handling of the situation probably means that Washington will have to settle for far less now in any Ramsey trade. Even at a reduced rate the Redskins likely have to deal Ramsey or release him, since he has finally become alarmed by his status."He's frustrated with the situation over the last couple years," Gibbs said.Ramsey, 27, has a 10-14 record as a starter. He has completed 480 of 861 passes for 5,649 yards with 34 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a 75.0 quarterback rating. His base salary for 2006 is $1.688 million, not unreasonable for a team that views him as a starter, but he is entering the final season of his original contract. Any team interested in acquiring Ramsey would probably want him to sign an extension before completing a trade.Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.</div>
Re: Ramsey & Gibbs Discussing Options Damn I'd love to get a 2nd/3rd round pick with Ramsey but that's really unlikely.
Re: Ramsey & Gibbs Discussing Options <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ Feb 27 2006, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Damn I'd love to get a 2nd/3rd round pick with Ramsey but that's really unlikely.</div>You should probably consider yourselves lucky if you got the Jets 4th rounder....the only picks I could see the Jets giving up for Ramsey are either the KC 4th Rounder for Herm or our 5th rounder.
Re: Ramsey & Gibbs Discussing Options I agree--we would be lucky to get a 4th for Ramsey... we only got a 6th round pick when we traded Rod Gardner to Carolina, and I'd rather have Rod on my team than Patrick
