Potential draft picks 2-8. Players Dame doesn’t want.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by blazerfan11, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    44,408
    Likes Received:
    32,709
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vagabond
    Location:
    Water Valley, Alberta Ca
    I hope your "feeling" is actually just a bad breakfast burrito you had.
     
  2. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,646
    Likes Received:
    17,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I would think offering our first pick this year less #1, with Simons & Nurk and some could, bring a star player of need.
     
  3. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,198
    Likes Received:
    3,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    Speaking of redundant, thanks so much for relaying the same take for the 10,000th time. It's in every single thread

    STOMP
     
  4. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    14,684
    Likes Received:
    11,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    They are both kind of awkward also. And Gobert so weak that he can't finish a dunk when there is contact. And KAT generally avoids contact.
     
    BBert likes this.
  5. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Messages:
    7,352
    Likes Received:
    7,513
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We already have one of those.....
     
    TBpup likes this.
  6. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,198
    Likes Received:
    3,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    While I'm not sure he's the best player projected 2-8, he's probably the best to fill immediate needs on this roster. I'm definitely intrigued... hope he measures at the combine

    STOMP
     
    TBpup and blazerfan11 like this.
  7. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    26,814
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I honestly don’t know how concerned they are about price. Dame has put them in desperation mode
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    26,814
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What Dame wants
     
  9. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    26,814
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Me too
     
  10. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't disagree that Jody would probably pay the money, but you have to match salaries to make the trade work. That will be very difficult to do without giving up better players, on better contracts, to get Gobert, who is a worse player, on a worse contract. Dame doesn't want to give up better players to get a worse one; or at least he hasn't indicated that is his desire.

    We need to have the Olshey salaries (Turner, Crabbe, Festus, etc) on the books to trade for someone like Gobert.
     
  11. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Messages:
    2,910
    Likes Received:
    2,370
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Dubai
    The post specifically said “fans”.
     
    Tince likes this.
  12. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My bad.... Yes, given how many fans are in the world, there will also be some that want to go against the grain. I'm confident you'll be able to find fans who want Scoot over Wemby when it gets closer to draft day as well.
     
  13. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Messages:
    2,910
    Likes Received:
    2,370
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Dubai
    I mean, I really don’t think it’s comparable.

    What Scoot did in the G league is not even comparable to what Durant did at Texas.

    Durant averaged a double double with nearly 30 points and was a defensive force. He was shooting 50/40/not sure on his FT%. Once again, not even comparable to Scoot.

    There was a legitimate case for Durant over Oden with those numbers. There really isn’t a case for Scoot over Wemby.

    As I said before, there is more talk about Miller or Scoot.
     
    CJ_is_Gone and blazerkor like this.
  14. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Messages:
    2,910
    Likes Received:
    2,370
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Dubai
    Long story short: Anyone who says Scoot over Wemby is doing it solely to go against the grain.

    Durant over Oden was legitimate based on the numbers. Oden was only superior in blocked shots (not even rebounding).
     
    BonesJones and illmatic99 like this.
  15. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed there is no value in comparing college numbers and G-League numbers. Two totally different animals; and frankly, two different eras.

    The similarity between the two situation is that there is/was a clear #1 among league executivies in the 2007 and 2023 drafts. Fans will always cover all scenariors.
     
  16. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    26,814
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ant, Nurk and picks work for Gobert
     
  17. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    14,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Correct. But Portland would be giving up the best player with the best contract, and picks, and a center, for the worst contract.

    If anything, Minnesota should be giving Portland multiple firsts in this scenario. From a talent, the trade makes Portland worse, and they are worse off contract wise. I don't think Dame wants that.
     
    PCmor7, BBert and blazerkor like this.
  18. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Messages:
    2,910
    Likes Received:
    2,370
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Dubai
    Hard pass on Gobert. Franchise destroying move.
     
    PCmor7, TBpup, BBert and 1 other person like this.
  19. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2019
    Messages:
    9,285
    Likes Received:
    2,695
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Omg Durant would have left us the first moment he had a chance no doubt about that
     
    BBert likes this.
  20. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2021
    Messages:
    2,910
    Likes Received:
    2,370
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Dubai
    Shooting 50%/40% translates pretty well. Rarely does a guy shooting 27% then start shooting 40% from 3.

    Conversely, rarely does a guy shooting 40% start shooting sub 30%.

    But yes, there is a clear favorite among executives.

    That’s not what I responded to, though.

    I can find plenty of news articles that say Oden v. Durant…

    I doubt you’ll find one that says “Wemby or Scoot? The debate rages on!”
     

Share This Page