NBA Playoffs Thread - Play-in and 1st round edition

one jokic FT miss away from one of the worst playoff chokejobs in recent NBA history.

 

Blazers Legend Nickel Alexander-Walker

 

I absolutely used facts to back up what I said.

I said Burke said Brooks wasn't a good athlete or a good shooter. I said she targeted him. Those aren't based on personal feelings, prejudices or interpretations. She actually did that.



Here she is yesterday with a word salad, contradicting herself in one sentence.



Also, it is entirely unprofessional to cook a player for an opinion quote of his about a player she obviously favors ... no, I can't go back and give you data for how many times she touts LeBron v how many times she criticizes him ... but, as an impartial, unbiased journalist, that's not in her purview. That's not subjective. It's something you learn not to do in journalism school.

Also, and I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about because you liked a post coming to your defense when you said Dame has said multiple times this offseason about not wanting to play with younger players ... except you didn't answer the question where I quoted you, asking where Dame said that other than the exit press conference. I find it very unlikely that you missed the question direct toward you but saw (and liked) someone else answering it for you.

 

Denver vs Suns will be an EPIC Battle

 

Maybe Shaedon Sharpe can be our Anthony Edwards

 

I remember he spoke to local media when the Knicks, and he, came to Portland and said essentially the same things...maybe that's where those quotes are from

and I'm pretty sure Cronin implied that the Blazers got something for a player that would likely leave. Now part of that was probably based upon having to re-sign him and the Vulcans pinching pennies

 

Where's the lie? Brooks is a good defender, but he is ass as a shooter and isn't particularly athletic.

 

I actually said just the opposite of what you're attributing to me. I said you can feel about her and her announcing however you want, but, objectively, she is not good.

I stated opinion but I also backed it up with fact.

What you do or don't appreciate about my posting is irrelevant. I don't believe I quoted you when I made my post about Burke. You inserted yourself in defending her. I explained why that had no bearing on her being objectively poor at her job and that your liking her was your own business but had no objective bearing on whether she was a good announcer or not. I don't know if you're her dad or what, but you keep coming back with the same stuff.

I guess I could say I don't appreciate being questioned about my opinion by a random poster with an opinion who I wasn't talking to, but that'd be equivalent to what you're doing. You think I'm being condescending and pretentious, well, I guess it's OK if I say this then: Come with better takes and read the posts to which you're responding more thoroughly; sometimes what you see as being condescended to is actually you not taking care of your own end of the discussion.

 

You are acting like you and you alone get to decide what the objective truth is. It is a logical fallacy. Your argument has no merit.

 

I'm not in this fight, but trust me when I tell you there are people who work in broadcasting the NBA who are shit at their jobs. It's who you know like every other thing in this world.

 

On what are you basing "he isn't particularly athletic"? If he's a good defender, like you say, and he's guarding some of the best players and most athletic players the Lakers have, doesn't it stand to reason that he must be somewhat athletic?

Not a good shooter? Geez, the guy shot 79.5% from the line this year and it was his worst percentage in four years. He hasn't shot well from 3 the last two years, but in the previous four years he was 34.4, 35.8, 37.5 and 35.6, which is pretty much league average.

Objectively, your assessment seems off.

Of course, that doesn't even need to really be addressed, because what exactly brings an impartial analyst to discuss a player in this manner in the first place? Is Brooks an underperforming star? How often have you heard another color analyst point out so boldly the shortcomings of a certain player, not just saying he wasn't playing well, but that he was poor in these areas?

What exactly happened that brought Brooks to be such a center of attention and get such a bad review? For bonus points, who are some of the players Burke consistently lauds and with whom seldom expresses fault?

 

Does that mean all S2 mods are created equal because they've all been proficient enough at moderation to become S2 mods?

You know what I mean here. Getting a job, holding a job, and being good at a job aren't all the same thing.

 

This is just ridiculous. I gave my opinion and I gave what she said and I explained why the way she performed would be considered unprofessional. To somehow say that's not objective is mindboggling.

If I were to say Player A was a poor shooter because he consistently shot below league averages and he wasn't a player I had any particular interest in, how would it not be objective? If you came back and said he's a good shooter because you liked him, how is that objective?

That's what you're doing.

Maybe this is a better question for you. Even though I've pointed out things Burke does that aren't what a good analyst would do, for me to be subjective about this would mean I have a personal dislike of her. Why would I personally dislike her? I don't know her. It's her performance that's not very good. As I said earlier, she might be a wonderful person, but that has nothing to do with how she calls basketball games.

 

Not necessarily. It really depends on what the people above her paygrade want, and that could be based on any number of things.

I'm sure you and probably everyone on this board has some story in their life of working for a superior that couldn't do the job of their employees or a co-worker who wasn't particularly skilled or worked well with their team but still remained on the staff somehow.

Here's an example that might resonate with you, personally: If the Blazers bring Chauncey Billups back as coach for a third year, would that mean, objectively, that Billups must be somewhat good at his job in order to maintain it?

 

I'm going to let this go and whoever wants to debate how objective I am can do so. I've made my point and I just keep repeating myself to covered ears.

I'm not going to derail the thread any further for those that actually want to talk about the games.

 

How is that unprofessional? Just because you believe that to be unprofessional does not make it the objective truth. And Brooks is simply NOT a good shooter, so she was telling the truth. I'm done arguing with you though because this is ridiculous. Feel free to reply or not. I won't be replying back either way.