OT Portland and surrounding area Homeless Situation

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Are fucking serious??? This proves you didnt read anything. I didnt post any pictures of anything i want Portland to copy.

    if you were actually following along, i said the world has way more poverty stricken areas than the us has. I then posted pictures Nd articles.
    You dismiss them as me saying i want Portland to follow their models?
    I don't think you even listen to what you say yourself, let alone what anyone else says.

    wtf?lmfao


    This one takes the cake!!!! Hahahaha

    no need for me even to comment further. You haven't a clue what ive said.
    Talk about garbage….
     
  2. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Nope. I dismissed them as garbage without even checking them out. Them i posted completely wrong info about your post, implying you want to follow models that created this poverty??


    But now im going to insult you because you have once again posted links that counter some things ive said. So im going to dismiss those links and insult you again. Cause thats how we solve things and make them better!!! I know all and have the answer to solve everything and if you refute it again? Ill just say i should gi lve you less attention and insult you.


    Funny funny stuff. Thanks for the laughs @Phatguysrule
     
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    Déjà vu.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hasn't there been a housing shortage though?
     
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    There has. And the refusal to tax (or apply some other stiff penalty) for having vacant houses or apartments is a big part of the problem, IMO.

    Punishing companies and individuals for keeping vacant properties would help to ease that shortage.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Shockingly you replied with gobbledygook. Keep it up, and people will just keep avoiding your thread.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think they should convert office space downtown into more housing.
     
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  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    What a disrespectful punk.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Shelter needs to come first. Food and shelter are the base of the hierarchy of needs. If you get them in shelter, you can then evaluate their needs further.

    Obviously resources such as detox and mental health services need to be available.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Healthcare facilities and drug treatment facilities are necessary, but only for those who need them. Shelter needs to be separate from that. If you were forced to live in a hospital or treatment facility would that feel like a home? People need their basic needs met in order to open up and decide to do more.
     
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    See the human hierarchy of needs.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Criminalizing homelessness is wrong.
     
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    There is desperation in this country. Lots of it, for those who have fallen through the cracks. Yes, we have more resources than 3rd world countries. We are one of the richest countries in the world, and yet we slap a band-aid on a gaping wound to make it seem like something is being done.

    There is the opportunity to come back from homeless out there, but it's hard. It was an uphill battle for me and I wasn't dealing with mental illness or drug problems.

    What is missing is trust. These people are not being treated like human beings, but like an infestation. We need to build trust. We get those willing off the street first. We help them without obligation. This builds trust with the rest.

    Of course if people are breaking the law, they should be arrested. But, homelessness itself should not be a crime, especially since it is a symptom of our broken systems.
     
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    Not sure imposing more taxes on people already having trouble paying taxes because they are having trouble renting their house out because people can't afford it, is a good answer.
     
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    My proposal, and what Finland, SLC, etc has done is not criminalizing homelessness. It's offering homeless people homes.

    The only people who would be arrested are those who choose to commit property damage, violence, or theft.
     
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    Absolutely agree.
     
  18. Chris Craig

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    That's fine.
     
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    The people with vacancies aren't having trouble paying taxes or they would rent their units out. That would more than cover the taxes.

    And it would go a long way toward helping alleviate our housing shortage.
     
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    If i buy property and want a house on it to remain vacant, thsts my right. Tax me more cor keeping it vacant?

    never gonna happen. But you keep trying to take from one to give to another. See how far you get with it.
     

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