Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

When I think of DeRozen, I think of Toronto dumping him for Leonard, then winning the title. To me, that is the very definition of not being a needle mover. His team gave up on him when he was in his prime. Can't see any interest there unless it is to dump Nurk, but even then he isn't worth near what is being thrown around on this board.

 

Because Leonard is a defender. Thus trading Dame

 

Joel Embid just won MVP

Do you think Ant, Nurk and the 5th pick is too much?

signed….2/3 of this forum probably

 

Thats an overpay.

He’s injury prone.

 

If (and there are a lot of big ifs in this option) we land Wemby and the Knicks get beat this round then Randle will make a lot of sense as an all star trade option. We select Wemby with the first pick and then send Ant and Nas plus 23 and an unprotected future first to the Knicks for Randle. We would still have future picks to get someone like Hartenstein to be a backup big and then the TPMLE to fill out our bench but this is a great team.

Dame, Shae, Jerami, Randle, Wamby, Matisse, Hartensein, TPEMLE, Mays and our second round pick at 43 is a helluva rotation... especially if Trendon and/or Mays are better than pick 43.

 

Why does NY trade Randle? How does Ant help NY with Brunson, Hart, Grimes and Barrett already there? Basically sending a back up, a fringe rotation guy and a late pick for an all star big? Ask yourself if you’d want that package

 

It's not too much but the 76ers would want another pick or something. Of course Embiid is very unlikely to be available but for the sake of discussing let's assume he is, such as if Harden first left in free agency.

So lets say the Blazers agree to a fair trade for both sides. The problem from the Blazers end is the resulting roster wouldn't be a contender nor have assets to acquire the other needed starters. If the Blazers give up future assets for a veteran and don't become a contender it's a bad move regardless if the veteran is a 6th man or MVP. Add in Embiid injury history and massive contract risk too. The Blazers just don't have enough veteran talent on the roster before or after an Embiid trade.

So it can be a situation where it's a good value trade from the Blazers end to trade for Embiid only looking at that one move. But simultaneously it's a bad trade for the Blazers at this time too.

 

I want a better defender at the forward spot than Randle for a Dame team. Now if we get Randle at a discount like Grant sure let's try it, but no I wouldn't acquire him at a high cost as you propose.

The ship has sailed on acquiring Knicks IMO with them having their best postseason in 23 years.

 

Embiid is signed for 3 more years before his player option. The timeline certainly works with Dame. But of course, Philly is not trading the MVP for anything we have unless we land the #1 pick. And not even then unless Embiid demands a trade.

 

Assuming Embid doesn’t tell management he wants out and will only play for Portland, what “fair” offer can Portland send for the MVP?

 

Jaylen browns preferred destination is Atlanta

 

I figured he’d end up in Houston with Ime

 

So Jaylen Brown said this?

 

Probably because he’s from Atlanta

 

Well, he is from there. After going to school at Cal, and then the Celtics, maybe he wants to move back home.
Although that does not mean he is demanding to be traded there.

 

There isn't a fair offer that leaves Portland with enough to contend, thus a trade doesn't make sense.

A fair offer, if Embiid were available, would be more than you propose and less than the farm (#5 #23 Ant Nurk Sharpe 3 unprotected picks 3 unprotected swaps). Different posters and different teams fans would have different opinions of what is fair. The truth (what a majority of competent GMs would agree on in negotiations) would be somewhere between those two groups opinions.

 

If he chokes in the playoffs, or misses a bunch of games the process cost may dwindle some.

 

... and an unprotected future first. When I look at it though, I think there would have to be a second team involved that had more of a need at guard because you're right that the Knicks seem to have that spot covered. So I think that package depends on if the Knicks have a mid to late first rounder that they like in this draft and if either team can find a fit from a third team that makes more sense for the Knicks roster than Ant does.

Why the Knicks might be ready to move on from Randle is that he has been kind of inconsistent for them on both ends and they might like Toppin and/or who is available to them at 23 or higher if they want to use future picks to move up. I would include another future first if it were needed. I also like Hartenstein as a backup which I'm sure they do too but if it were Randle and Hartenstein I would be willing to give up Ant, Nas, #23 and all three future firsts that we would be able to send out. Then we'd have to find a home for Nurk maybe the Knicks would like him backing up Robinson and would find value in dumping Fournier on us.

Dame, Shae, Jerami, Randle, Wemby, Matisse, Hartenstein, TPMLE, and whoever wins minutes out of Fournier, Trendon, Mays, pick 43, Knox, Jabari and Keon.

Like I said to begin this whole thing, there are a ton of ifs so I could see why you would say this is really iffy.

 

Blazers get #3 in draft. Trade pick , future 1st / Ant to Brooklyn for Mikal Bridges. Re-sign Grant. Sign UFA Seth Curry , Matisse Thybulle , Eubanks, Skylar Mays , Knox, and make other potential trade involving Nas. I just don't see the Blazers able to get an upgrade for Nurk in a deal. Nurks needs to finally play up to his contract. Starting Line up: Nurk, Grant, Bridges, Sharpe, and Dame. Bench: Curry, Thybulle, Eubanks, Watford, Mays, Knox, and add surprise through trade (Draymond Green ?).

 

Who has more trade value right now, Nas or Cam? My guess is it might be Cam despite what a few posters here might think of him. If it is then I say sign him and trade him before the season starts. You can still trade Nas as well, but I like the way his 3 ball improved this last season.