Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

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  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I totally misread that! My bad
     
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    I'm surprised people are still pining for KAT. C's are simply not going to make a difference, unless they are elite, like wings can

    the Blazers were a lottery team with Nurkic. Compare Nurkic and KAT this year:

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    I don't see enough with Kat, compared to Nurkic, to elevate Portland enough to trade Ant & 3 first round picks for that guy. In fact, I think it would be stupid, and that's without adding in the context of KAT's absolutely disgusting contract. And it's also not accounting for the fact that KAT has averaged 47 games a year over the last 4 seasons
     
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    I don't love him, but also, why just compare last year to compare the two?
     
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    valid point

    last 3 seasons:

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    and for consideration, KAT's contract:

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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    You need more salary than ant and nas for kat...
     
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    That was kind of my point. I believe that Dame isn't a true PG, too. I said the second unit needs one because as long as Dame is on the team he will be the starting PG.
     
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    Nad and Ant next year make ~ 30.3. That can bring back upwards of 37 million in salary. KAT makes 36 next year. $$ works.
     
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    Hell no to KAT. The contract, the attitude, the defense. Nope.
     
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    If we do it before the new league year, you're right but if we agree to it now or at the draft but put it through for next season's numbers then we're fine... if we had to add Keon to get it to go through immediately I don't think that would be a deal breaker.
     
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    Love all these lineups with Sharpe coming off the bench. He is not coming off the bench. If he does, there is zero chance he sticks around. He has the greatest potential of anyone on the roster.

    If Boston fails to make the finals, they may be desperate enough to trade Brown for Dame, and Portland needs to jump on that opportunity.
     
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    If the Blazers want to get a little younger I might support this. Not only could Boston could offer a good package for Dame, It would also give Dame a real chance at a championship. This vary well could be a win for all parties involved especially if the Blazers get that #2 pick and take Scoot Henderson.
     
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    Yeah KAT to the Blazers makes a lot of sense. I don't know you can get him or OG for what you list. But I can see the motivation for both Minny and Portland.
     
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    KAT has Jokic or Embiid first team All NBA upside to many people. That's something OG, Nurk, Ant, etc just don't have.

    Now I'd say KAT has a lot of risk and night never fulfil it, so there could be a ton of risk it totally fails. But it has some potential to actually work, unlike the majority of realisticlly available trade targets.
     
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    I've been a huge Sharpe fan since the day we drafted him and value him over every player on the roster.

    Dude is 19 years old and never contributed consistently for a winning team. He's on a rookie contract the team will likely control close to a decade. He can come off the bench just like Kobe.

    If he proves he deserves to start then great, move him up then. He doesn't need to be handed anything without earning it, for both his and the teams long term benefit.
     
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    No , nope, natta. If the Blazers go after Brown, it's to add him with Dame. Brown would be a nice addition to the starting 5. Nurk, Grant, Brown, Sharpe, and Dame.
     
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    Yeah I don't see the point in getting Brown if we trade away Dame. Rather get picks and players with upside. The reason to get Brown is to pair him with Dame. They are close too, so I don't see Brown happy here if we trade away Dame and him being on an expiring contract that really matters.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Brown is...26? The point of dealing Dame for him is that he's a legit all star who could potentially elevate to another tier if given an opportunity to be the #1 option, and would reset our timeline for contention around an Ant/Sharpe/Brown core without reducing our talent level.

    But I agree, if Brown would be dissatisfied being here without Dame, then dealing for him wouldn't make much sense if he were to depart a year later.
     
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    Brown has a lot of leverage right now. He is not a fan of being in Boston and he will be a free agent after next season. Many Celtic fans think he will be gone this summer. Rumors say Trae Young and Collins are the centerpieces in a trade for Brown and Smart. I assume the rumor is coming from fans, but I bet Atlanta will do whatever it takes to get him.
     
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    I was going to say how Ant is younger; but I see at 23 he's only one year younger than 24 year old Trae. Seems like Trae has played way more.

    Probably the best offer comes down to if the Celtics like Collins and the step up from Trae more than the Blazers picks they can package with Simons.

    Also, do those teams have a harder time agreeing on a deal being in the same conference.

    Finally; if Brown pushes for Portland as Grant did; the Hawks might not want to give up Trae for only an expiring contract of Jaylen.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I have long thought that Dame for Brown makes a lot of sense. The Celts get to pair Dame with Tatum and we get a guy who is still pretty young and just coming into his own.

    If we got the second pick, it could make a lot of sense to draft Scoot, trade Dame for Brown, and then flip Simons/Nurk for another piece that fits the timeline.
     

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