Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

Exactly! Wemby is different. He's already been playing pro ball in Europe. These other draft picks are unproven.

 

To be clear, I don't want to keep him. I'm just saying that you COULD play Simons/Sharpe together.

I think in my first scenario I was saying if you got the second pick, you draft Scoot, trade Dame for Brown and then send out Simons/Nurk for something useful.

 

Scoot looks like a Donovan Mitchell Light to me. G-League is a fine development League. I just don't see Scoot looking like an all world talent. I remember seeing people talk about how good Davion Mitchell was. They even gave him a nickname "day off". But in the NBA , "Day Off" has been the great guards in the NBA torching his butt like it's a day off.

 

lol Tyk his nickname is "Off Night" because supposedly players would have an "Off Night" when they played him. Not "Day off"

 

I actually think Ant would be great as a 6th man with the confidence to shoot the rock as soon as he gets in. Next to a PG though. But his salary/talent is important to be able to get a upgrade at the wing position.

 

Thanks for the correction

 

people keep assuming that Boston would trade Brown for Dame. Why?

the Celtics already have Smart, Brogdon, & White to play PG. And they are all considerably bigger than Dame; and are all signed to long term deals

furthermore, even if Boston was willing, I don't think there's a chance that Portland trades Dame for Brown without Brown agreeing to an extend-and-trade and I don't think there's a chance that Brown agrees to that if Dame isn't in Portland. He very well might not agree in any case

AFAIC, Dame for Brown is just not realistic. Too many moving parts that all have to fall in place. It's a pipe-dream trade to justify talking about moving Dame. After all that's happened if the Blazers suddenly start shopping Dame they are not going to get offers like Brown...IMO

 

Exactly! The Blazers would get a myriad of end of the 1st round draft picks ( do the fact he would be going to a good to very good team, who would get a lot better with him aboard), and crappy over paid so-so talent in return to make it work under the cap. It's utter nonsense.

 

I agree with you on everything except for the "why". Yes, they are all bigger than Dame but how is that working out? If they lose this next game to Philly changes will be made and every Celtc fan I know...blame the PGs. Sure we would be happy to be in their position, but they are not. They are fed up with Smart in particular. Yes, those guys are locked up in long-term deals, but they can always trade them.

 

well, it's certainly working out better for them than anything Portland has done. In the last 4 seasons, Boston has won 32 playoff games with their PG situation; Blazers have won 3 games

so then, do the math...the Celtics trade Brown + Smart + Brogdon for Dame and some role players. Are they better?

 

Yeah, I think Platypus premise is flawed; teams can't trade away a franchise player and receive back multiple quality allstars. Thats just not realstic with Dame, and thats why we don't see this type of scenario ever happen.

We have seen star for star trades, but those are actually pretty rare too. Usually its star for youth and pieces. Thats both because the team trading away the star primarily does it to pivot and rebuild, but also because the acquiring team only wants to add the star to their best win now veterans.

So the Blazers receiving "multiple all-star players in their mid-twenties without sacrificing any of the lottery talent we already have" isn't something I can ever recall another franchise pulling off. I highly doubt there is a realistic path for the Blazers to do so.

 

I could certainly see Boston willing to do a Dame for Brown swap. Especially if Brown gives them an indication he will not stay. Agree with other posters - Boston is not going to look at Smart as the successful best answer leading them at PG any more than we looked at Aminu as the answer at forward while he was a starer on our WCF team. Teams want to get to the title, and Dame is a legit 1st/2nd option to do that.

I don't think a Brown Dame swap would ever happen from the Blazers end straight up for the reasons you list. Although maybe it could be part of a 3 way deal if the Blazers and Dame decided to part ways.

 

Why would they trade all those guys for Dame?

 

I wouldn't be shocked if Brown had a bit more value than Dame throughout the league. In which case the Celtics would get Dame plus an asset, if both teams agreed on a mutually fair trade.

 

Dame is way more clutch, and a great leader. You really can't put a price on that. I think Boston lacks leadership on the court. Brown's very good. He ain't Dame. With Dame i think he'd be better. I'm not as big on Tatum. He's a healthier Paul George. But like George, he doesn't show the leadership needed.

 

sorry...I was responding to a post that said Boston wanted to trade Smart and maybe another PG like Brogdon....which they would likely do if they traded for Dame. It would be to other teams, not for Dame. That's where the 'role-players' would come from

 

Boston has a much better team than Portland. They arguably have the most depth in the NBA. They and Milwaukee had the best records in the NBA. But something is missing and it is not Brown, Tatum, or Horford. (or the 6th man of the year Brogdon) It seems to me to be the PG.
I don't trade Brown for Dame unless he wants out, but again....you asked why would Boston do it.....they do it if Brown does want out.

 

you forgot to add "and assuming they don't get better offers"

 

That is always the case. Although it doesn't make any difference because Portland would not do the trade knowing that Brown has all the leverage. If he is not re-signing with Boston why would he re-sign on a Dameless Blazer team? However, would there be a better offer? Trae Young certainly is not.

 

Actually, I think they call him Knight & Day because he watched the movie and then went out and had a very average game. True story