Trade Idea Vote After #3 Pick - Blazers first off season priority

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First Off-season Priority

Poll closed May 30, 2023.
  1. Trade pick(s)/youth away for vets to win now

    47.2%
  2. Trade Dame away and rebuild

    41.5%
  3. Bring back the band along with pick #3

    11.3%
  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I think whoever posted it that a Brooklyn Portland trade makes a ton of sense one direction or the other. Blazers could send a lot of youth for those 3. Or Blazers could send Dame for a lot of youth/picks in return. As is both teams are in half win now half rebuild positions that don't seem ideal.
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If we send them Dame (which I don't want) they send us the fucking farm.
     
  3. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    The issue is they still need enough vets to win with Dame: ie Bridges Claxton DFS.

    If we're dealing with a NY team I might prefer the Knicks: they control all their picks. Get their 2024 2026 2028 2030 picks unprotected and get unprotected swaps in 2025 2027 2029, dumb contracts like Fornier and scrubs for Dame. NY still has a few more picks from other teams, so they might actually consider it.

    Those picks could be insanely valuable once Dame declines in a few years. Either keep them or Blazers could eventually trade them for multiple all stars when Sharpe Scoot Ant etc hit their prime.
     
  4. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why so many people are concerned with Siakam's fit next to Grant. It just makes no sense to me.

    Both are very versatile. I think they could easily play the 3/4 together as well as the 4/5. But Siakam is significantly better than Grant is. Offensively - I don't see any conflict on where they like to operate on the court. Both are more drive & kick wings. Although Siakam likes to get a bit closer to the mid-range than Grant typically does. Defensively, both are very mobile for their size. When they get beat, they both have a lot of length to make up ground.

    Worst case, you re-sign Grant & then if it isn't working, you trade Grant in January for a better fit....
     
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    Blazers have the best #3 draft pick team I have ever seen. The trade deadline decimation strategy performed flawlessly for this franchise.

    Don't mess things up by trading top young talent. If the Blazers are anywhere near .500 next season, park the starting unit & go get Shaedon and the new rookie another running mate.
     
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    My big concern with pairing them is our already abysmal rebounding. I'm worried that playing them together makes it even worse.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Just to quibble, the Nuggets do NOT have a ton of depth. They have a tight 8 man rotation and their bench consists of:
    ancient Jeff Green
    castoff Bruce Brown
    rookie Christian Braun
    that's it!

    And yet, you know that WHOever we get for the #3 pick they will easily beat us in a seven game series. Especially as on top of everything else, Jokic just never gets injured.
     
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    ?? The assets would be mainly picks, obviously. Nobody trading for Dame is going to give up a helpful player because they'd be totally "win now" (so PLEASE stop the Mikal Bridges pipe dreams). So we'd have either the worst record in the league or close to it and another top 5 pick next year. But we'd have a stream of Shaedon dunks to keep us happy, and the knowledge that we're improving.

    The alternative is to mortgage our future for a pretty-much-guaranteed first round exit.
     
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    You Siakam people: explain why Masai Ujiri, notoriously one of the canniest GMs in the league (who has fleeced us before) would trade Siakam for the #3 if Siakam was worth the #3 pick. If Ujiri wants to make that trade, that's when you back out fast because you're being screwed.
     
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    Exactly. Thus the reason a lot of fans do not see the logic in it. We have no clue where those picks will end up. And I am not suggesting we mortgage our future.
     
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    Who did he fleece us for? Trent who might not resign? You are right he may want to keep Siakam unless Pascal wants out. But they also have a surplus of talent at his position.
     
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    Offensively I think they would be great. But thats not what is holding back a Dame team from contending. Defensively I don't think they make sense, plus both are best at the 4. Bridges and Brown are much better with Grant, and younger.

    I mean if we can get Siakam for Ant and #23 and a future first I'm all for it. But when your talking about #3 that is as valuable as many years #1s.... no I'm not doing that trade for Siakam.
     
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    That would only be a concern if they are paired at the 4/5 positions.

    If they played most of their time together at the 3/4 (with Nurk at the 5), the rebounding would be fine.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    The 3 in itself is worth more than Siakam. Why would we throw in Ant? Masai would ask for Ant PLUS more and justify it by saying they don't value Ant.

    It's so fucking stupid. It's like a few years ago when Blazer fans kept trying to convince Philly that McCollum was the best they could get for Simmons. Toronto fans want to manifest it so bad but it is not happening.
     
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    The way I see it... it's Ant/#3/Nurk for either

    Siakam/OG/Porter Jr. or Young

    or

    Bridges/Claxton/O'neal or Finney-Smith

    Which do you prefer?
     
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    I think eventually, that will be the case. If not for a unicorn, Scoot would be the #1 pick with some people thinking Miller was the better choice. These are 2 very good which one of will fall to Portland. I'm not thrilled about getting a player that very likely doesn't make us a contender, and in the case of someone like Siakam or Brown, is due a MASSIVE payday at the end of next season.

    Meanwhile, a very high Lottery pick who will likely contribute instantly and only get better, will be on a very inexpensive contract for a number of years.
     
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    When you have a surplus, you trade the lesser talent. And a lesser talent from a team that didn't make the playoffs does not light my fire.
     
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    Keep it smaller.

    Ant/3 for Bridges/Claxton is good.
     
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    Both teams provide an opportunity to acquire an additional bench piece. If either team trades for #3, they have no use for their veteran wings.
     
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    Bridges Claxton DFS by a mile
     

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