We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Yeah it seems far fetched. But getting Duren + another player in the top 5 to pair with Sharpe for the future would be an exciting one.

Do they love Scoot enough to trade Duren though?

 

Sorry not sorry. Anyone advocating for trading what you got today for established/older talent when your stud is a couple months from 33... connect the dots.

STOMP

 

I have my doubts.

 

Obviously after the sweep, we will trade the pick for LeBron.

 

really good discussion

 

In the end it only matters what Kupchak thinks.
It’s going to be a very interesting draft!

 

Simply advocating that we try to get better rather than trying to get worse.

 

who is advocating that the team should try to get worse?

STOMP

 

I didn't say anybody else was advocating for anything. Only that I am advocating for management making the move with the pick that they think wins us the most games next season and pushes us deepest into the playoffs.

If that turns out to be keeping and using the pick then that's what we should do. If it means we trade it then that's what we should do.

Keeping in mind that historically, teams who have an All Star tend to be more successful than those who do not. It's typically better to keep your All Stars if winning is what you are trying to do.

 

What’s the value of the #3 pick if teams that want it don’t know who’s going to be available?
It could be all the offers coming to Cronin are for Scoot Henderson.

 

I keep hearing that the pick has higher value before a player is selected than after. I asked this forum why that is. I don't think anyone replied. I still want an explanation, for my own sake.

In another post, I said, the blazers just need to pick the bpa, whether that is scoot or miller, then have a bidding war to all teams interested. I was told that's not how it works.

So I kept thinking, maybe before the draft, Joe can talk to all the other teams who has a player or players he wants to help Dame, and tell them, "hey, which player, if still available at 3, would you like in exchange for X (X being the aformentioned player or players).

Obviously some trades need just the 3, some we need to add any one or combo or all of ant/nurk/other picks/other players, depending on what we're getting back.

Basically, Joe can set the framework for a draftday trade, such that by the time we're on the clock to pick 3rd, we already have multiple pre-agreed trade with different teams waiting for who is available at 3 and for both teams to finalize.

 

Likely scenario is we wouldn't be able to trade for him unless he'd leverage his way here, which is looking more and more likely to happen. So I don't see a trade happening where he doesn't extend.

 

That's how Joe will have this thing. He'll have trades with different teams, he'll have set A bidding for Scoot and Set B bidding for Miller. As soon as a decision is made by Charlotte he'll hopefully try to bump the value up even further but having seen the way Joe operates, he'll likely just go with who he already agreed with from Set A or B. If Jaylen Brown says he's only playing here then Joe will probably have one deal that sends Ant somewhere else with Scoot and whoever Ant fetches going to Boston and something that just sends Ant and Miller to Boston. I think Cronin plans ahead. I think he gets his ducks in a row and just like it played out last year around the draft with Jerami, I think a lot of people will be cool (not blown away but cool) with what Joe gets done.

 

Scoot is a much better passer and a better mid-range shooter. I also think Scoot as more creativity to his dribble-drive game and with how he creates angles.

 

I know that the draft is still a month away but I find it telling that we're only working out guys that aren't even projected to be taken around our pick at 45. Most of the guys we've worked out are looked at as undrafted or in the 50s. Obviously we could stretch for one but not one guy in the neighborhood of the 23rd pick and definitely not anyone 2-6. Like I said it's early but it could be telling us a lot.

 

Anyone have insider?

 

If LeBron does retire; how about Ant #3 and salary filler to LA for Anthony Davis?

 

Dame
Sharpe
Grant
AD
Nurk

 

At #3 it's probably more likely the pick could be traded post draft since it's basically a consensus of who should be taken. Reason picks are normally traded prior to draft is:

1. Teams often have players ranked very differently, so who got picked at #4 might be ranked #9 with another franchise. Teams want to make their choice or may target just one specific player
2. Once teams have associated a player with their franchise (drafted them), they begin introducing them to media, coaches, players, etc. They begin forming a bond and become hesitant to break that connection so soon
3. Often picks are acquired to move for another player or pick or third team, but after the draft this becomes much more difficult
4. Draft picks are sort of a "new car" item where they are not valued as highly for immediate resale as teams want to control the entire buying process including predraft interviews, combine, etc.

So it's not impossibly the Blazers draft a player at 3 and trade them days weeks or months later. It's just extremely rare, and normally completed at the draft

 

We have seen top picks traded post draft such as Wiggins for Kevin Love.

I actually think the Blazers potentially could be one of these situations, since drafting a rookie at #3 potentially has so many veterans and franchise player on the roster also in motion. Especially if the Blazers select Scoot, it would seem a trade has to be coming.

But there is also free agency, and stars asking or not asking for trades in July. Blazers aren't really forced to do any action right away except resigning Grant

So historical odds would suggest a trade of #3 is most likely going to happen on draft night. But with the Blazers this entire off-season is unknown and difficult to predict.