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Its just hard for me to look at #23 targets with so much of the entire roster at spots #1-12 potentially in flux. I'm not sure it makes sense to keep the pick unless we are considering trading Dame.

If we are keeping Dame; probably want to use it to add a vet now with #23 (OG?) or use it to payoff Chicago and free future picks for larger potential moves. I guess it also comes down to what other teams offer. Even if we are keeping Dame, maybe we just don't like any offers for #23 - or we are getting a vet for #3 and want to add one rookie that can help in the next few years on a very cheap contract.

If we rebuild, then it makes more sense to use it. In that case we might want to hold out on the pick debt to Chicago - as theres a chance if the rebuild gets stalled it just turns into 2nd rounders.
 
With Schmitz on board, maybe they hit pay dirt on an end of 1st rounder who actually can play sooner than later. No toddlers please.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Look no further than Mr. Jackson

Menace of a defender - elite wing defense

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"His rebounding level, his defensive versatility, his athleticism — all those things are NBA-ready right now," said the scout. "He could defend two or three positions in the NBA right now. People love wing defenders in the league."
 
There's definitely a lot of uncertainty about how the Blazers will or will not be using each pick. If the Blazers use the #23 pick in this draft, here are a few prospects I'd like them to consider if they're still on the board:
  • Brice Sensabaugh (6'5 SF - 16.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, 40.5% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Brandin Podziemski (6'5 SG - 19.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 3.7 apg, 43.8% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Dariq Whitehead (6'6 SF - 8.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 42.9% 3pt, 18.9 y/o)
  • Kris Murray (6'8 PF - 20.2 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg, 33.5% 3pt, 25.9 PER)
  • Noah Clowney (6'10 PF - 9.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 28.5% 3pt, 18.9 y/0)
Brandin Podziemski is the guy I think is a bit undervalued at this time. Yes, he comes from a small school, but his numbers are excellent, and his measurements at the combine were solid (max vertical 39.0 - 6th highest in the draft combine).

I'm also super interested in Zach Edey. Perhaps if the Blazers use a second round pick. I know, the league isn't built for big lumbering centers anymore, but damn -
  • National Player of the Year (2023)
  • Big Ten Player of the Year (2023)
  • #1 NCAA Double-Double Leader
  • #1 NCAA PER Leader (40.2 !!)
  • #2 NCAA Rebound Leader (12.9)
  • #2 NCAA Off. Rebound Leader
  • #3 NCAA Points Per Minute (0.703)
  • #6 NCAA Scoring Leader (22.3)
  • #11 NCAA Usage% Leader (32.6%)
  • #16 NCAA eDiff (difference between offensive and defensive ratings) Leader (+38.0)
  • #17 NCAA FG% Leader
  • #18 NCAA Blocks Leader (2.1)
  • #43 NCAA Offense Rating Leader (130.3)
  • Height w/o shoes: 7'3.25"
  • Wingspan: 7'10.5" (largest by over 5" in draft class)
Just from the pure entertainment perspective, it would be fun to see him play.

I love this time of year. Guys are moving up and down on draft boards. There's always a sleeper or 2 late in the first round and even into the second round. It takes a bit of skill and a lot of luck to find those gems.
 
personally, I don't see any reason to ship the pick to Chicago unless there is an actual 'good' deal available that needs that future pick as leverage. Giving up a 1st on speculation may be as bad as trading a 1st for Afflalo

Blazers may draft a very good player at 23...that's what they hired Schmitz for, right?
 
42N8Bounce said:
There's definitely a lot of uncertainty about how the Blazers will or will not be using each pick. If the Blazers use the #23 pick in this draft, here are a few prospects I'd like them to consider if they're still on the board:
  • Brice Sensabaugh (6'5 SF - 16.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, 40.5% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Brandin Podziemski (6'5 SG - 19.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 3.7 apg, 43.8% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Dariq Whitehead (6'6 SF - 8.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 42.9% 3pt, 18.9 y/o)
  • Kris Murray (6'8 PF - 20.2 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg, 33.5% 3pt, 25.9 PER)
  • Noah Clowney (6'10 PF - 9.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 28.5% 3pt, 18.9 y/0)
Brandin Podziemski is the guy I think is a bit undervalued at this time. Yes, he comes from a small school, but his numbers are excellent, and his measurements at the combine were solid (max vertical 39.0 - 6th highest in the draft combine).

I'm also super interested in Zach Edey. Perhaps if the Blazers use a second round pick. I know, the league isn't built for big lumbering centers anymore, but damn -
  • National Player of the Year (2023)
  • Big Ten Player of the Year (2023)
  • #1 NCAA Double-Double Leader
  • #1 NCAA PER Leader (40.2 !!)
  • #2 NCAA Rebound Leader (12.9)
  • #2 NCAA Off. Rebound Leader
  • #3 NCAA Points Per Minute (0.703)
  • #6 NCAA Scoring Leader (22.3)
  • #11 NCAA Usage% Leader (32.6%)
  • #16 NCAA eDiff (difference between offensive and defensive ratings) Leader (+38.0)
  • #17 NCAA FG% Leader
  • #18 NCAA Blocks Leader (2.1)
  • #43 NCAA Offense Rating Leader (130.3)
  • Height w/o shoes: 7'3.25"
  • Wingspan: 7'10.5" (largest by over 5" in draft class)
Just from the pure entertainment perspective, it would be fun to see him play.

I love this time of year. Guys are moving up and down on draft boards. There's always a sleeper or 2 late in the first round and even into the second round. It takes a bit of skill and a lot of luck to find those gems.
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I watched every game of his and have been high on him since last year.

He’ll be hunted in the p&r but he is massive, skilled and plays with a mean streak.

The Zubac role.
 
wizenheimer said:
personally, I don't see any reason to ship the pick to Chicago unless there is an actual 'good' deal available that needs that future pick as leverage. Giving up a 1st on speculation may be as bad as trading a 1st for Afflalo

Blazers may draft a very good player at 23...that's what they hired Schmitz for, right?
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Also with as influx this franchise has been and questions of the franchise player long term, its not a lock we escape the lottery in the next few years. We might only end up giving Chicago 2nd round picks.
 
Haven't thought about this pick since lottery night. Will be interesting to see what they do with it
 
42N8Bounce said:
There's definitely a lot of uncertainty about how the Blazers will or will not be using each pick. If the Blazers use the #23 pick in this draft, here are a few prospects I'd like them to consider if they're still on the board:
  • Brice Sensabaugh (6'5 SF - 16.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, 40.5% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Brandin Podziemski (6'5 SG - 19.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 3.7 apg, 43.8% 3pt, 26.4 PER)
  • Dariq Whitehead (6'6 SF - 8.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 42.9% 3pt, 18.9 y/o)
  • Kris Murray (6'8 PF - 20.2 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg, 33.5% 3pt, 25.9 PER)
  • Noah Clowney (6'10 PF - 9.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 0.8 apg, 28.5% 3pt, 18.9 y/0)
Brandin Podziemski is the guy I think is a bit undervalued at this time. Yes, he comes from a small school, but his numbers are excellent, and his measurements at the combine were solid (max vertical 39.0 - 6th highest in the draft combine).

I'm also super interested in Zach Edey. Perhaps if the Blazers use a second round pick. I know, the league isn't built for big lumbering centers anymore, but damn -
  • National Player of the Year (2023)
  • Big Ten Player of the Year (2023)
  • #1 NCAA Double-Double Leader
  • #1 NCAA PER Leader (40.2 !!)
  • #2 NCAA Rebound Leader (12.9)
  • #2 NCAA Off. Rebound Leader
  • #3 NCAA Points Per Minute (0.703)
  • #6 NCAA Scoring Leader (22.3)
  • #11 NCAA Usage% Leader (32.6%)
  • #16 NCAA eDiff (difference between offensive and defensive ratings) Leader (+38.0)
  • #17 NCAA FG% Leader
  • #18 NCAA Blocks Leader (2.1)
  • #43 NCAA Offense Rating Leader (130.3)
  • Height w/o shoes: 7'3.25"
  • Wingspan: 7'10.5" (largest by over 5" in draft class)
Just from the pure entertainment perspective, it would be fun to see him play.

I love this time of year. Guys are moving up and down on draft boards. There's always a sleeper or 2 late in the first round and even into the second round. It takes a bit of skill and a lot of luck to find those gems.
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If we land an athletic big in a trade and are going to re-sign Drewbanks then I think Edey at 45 would be cool. We would have two guys that can move really well and if we're playing a team who plays Gobert or Nurk or someone like that, then he'd get some valuable PT. I also think in small doses those types of guys cause match up problems, you just have to be able to sub them out when their lack of mobility starts causing your team problems.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Look no further than Mr. Jackson

Menace of a defender - elite wing defense

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Not a lot of outside shots in those highlights. That's probably a good thing considering that's the lowest release I've seen since middle school. He shoots the ball from his chest. Not sure how that's going to fly.
 
BBert said:
Not a lot of outside shots in those highlights. That's probably a good thing considering that's the lowest release I've seen since middle school. He shoots the ball from his chest. Not sure how that's going to fly.
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I am not exactly defending this kid, since I really know nothing about him. But, his shot mechanics remind me of Tyrese Haliburton, and I don't see him having too much trouble in the league.
 
Im hoping the Chicago GM is the biggest prick ever and demands so much to change the terms of the deal that it hamstrings Portland the entire time, thus saving themselves from themselves. People here throwing picks and swaps around like frisbees.
 
If Nick Smith JR is there at 23 i bet we take him. Dude was a top five pick and was hurt most of the year. Came back in March to help his team against the wishes of Klutch Sports. It hurt his stock.

Kid is the real deal.
 
BIG Q said:
Im hoping the Chicago GM is the biggest prick ever and demands so much to change the terms of the deal that it hamstrings Portland the entire time, thus saving themselves from themselves. People here throwing picks and swaps around like frisbees.
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Don't you get it? The Blazers give up drafting someone in the 2023 draft so they can give up drafting more players in the future !!
 
BIG Q said:
Im hoping the Chicago GM is the biggest prick ever and demands so much to change the terms of the deal that it hamstrings Portland the entire time, thus saving themselves from themselves. People here throwing picks and swaps around like frisbees.
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Yeah I don't think we should mortgage future picks unless we add both Embiid and Brown or some insane addition of talent.

It's risks setting this franchise back the next decade worse than Olshey did, wasting Sharpes prime, and unlikely to provide a significant benefit.
 
RonBrewer said:
If Nick Smith JR is there at 23 i bet we take him. Dude was a top five pick and was hurt most of the year. Came back in March to help his team against the wishes of Klutch Sports. It hurt his stock.

Kid is the real deal.
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Oh yeah, like Michael Porter JR?
 
Very likely we aren’t in the lottery again next year but likely will fall just outside it so Bulls would benefit waiting and grab next years pick which would be higher than 23. That said if there’s a player we really want then keep it and try and work something else out with them
 
remember the Bulls don't have a first this year because of the stupid Vucevic trade. They certainly could use one
 
If the Blazers keep the pick, I expect them to use it on a big. I wasn't high on Lively at first, but looking at our roster I think he'd make a lot of sense and with a good development staff I think he could in 3-4 years become a steal at this point of the draft. I also think he is so good at the one thing he does now that he offers limited plug-and-play ability.

He also grew up not far from me, so it'd be cool to see him end up a Blazer.

Knowing we have Schmitz, though, I'm keeping my eye on Nnaji. I think he's one of the big sleepers here but he's got a lot of upside. His feet and switchability remind me of Bam's. The thing he had over Bam, though, is a 7-7 wingspan.

One other slightly-related note: Nnaji gets good marks from scouts for his quickness and athleticism, but Badji, I think, actually is an even better athlete and taller.

One other completely-unrelated note: For that second-round pick, if it's not used in a trade, I think there's a high chance it gets used on someone that can be stashed overseas for a couple of years. However, if that doesn't happen, the player I keep floating back to that would make sense for the Blazers roster-wise and I think would be a Schmitz-type pick is Emoni Bates.
 
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