We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    the trade occurred on 2/9/2023, so look for that date in the boxes below

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    there you go...that should clear things right up in your mind...right? easy-peasy
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Such a weird tweet. Who the fuck has ever worried about stopping PatBev from doing anything but getting away with constantly fouling without getting called for it? The dude is a journeyman who belongs on the bench of a team that doesn't mind his obnoxious behavior. As for the beard... he's a very talented dude but like Russ, I think his huge stats rarely equal big wins. Harden has had way better rosters than the one he (and I guess that scrub PatBev) would have in Houston and he didn't win a lot with those rosters.
     
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    Predator The Godfather

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    buT whEn hE waS a lEad GuArd
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Orlando has some good young players and all their picks. Two first-round picks in 2023. They are in a better stage than Houston is.
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  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hmmmm..... Houston......

    They have some nice pieces.... Eason, Sengun, the 4th pick.... a bunch of other picks as well... they could put together a nice package for Dame.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    I'd much rather have Franz Wagner from Orlando.
     
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  7. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Themselves.
     
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    James lamphear Well-Known Member

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    I see a lot trade ideas what if the other 29 other teams don't want the 3rd pick to force Dame asking for a trade has anybody thought about that situation. Teams might try to force Dame and the blazers to end up forcing either Dame saying he wants out that's real good possible.
     
  9. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's a long con game and I don't think some teams want to help gift wrap a top 75 all time player to someone.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Orlando doesn't have nearly as many picks. And the 4th is worth more than the 6th and 11th.

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    If you get Scoot at 3, you trade Simons. If you get Miller, you keep Simons and send out Nurk.

    But you could go into next season with:
    Scoot
    Sharpe
    Eason
    Smith Jr
    Sengun

    And then with the 4th you take Amen Thompson. We have a ton of young talent and picks to start our rebuild.
     

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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I've heard similar about Houston. For example; Ryan Russilo said on his podcast they actually don't want to add another high lottery pick as they have so many already they are concerned it will be too many young players in the same development cycle wanting to possibly all increase their shots and all get rookie extensions at the same time.

    Yeah Dame for #4 makes a lot of sense. Houston has massive cap room so they can actually absorb most if not all of Dame's entire salary, even while signing Harden. They also have a lot of future picks, if your someone who thinks the Blazers should hold out for a bit more in return. This would give the Blazers a huge trade exception which they have a year to use.

    Then draft something like both Scoot/Miller and Amen Thompson at #3 and #4.

    Anfernee Simons
    Shaedon Sharpe
    Amen Thompson
    Brandon Miller
    #23?

    Trade Nurk now or at the deadline
    Sign and Trade Grant - or sign with the intent to trade later

    Just saw that Larry Nance trade is protected until 2028 - LMAO didn't realize it was possible to encumber for that damn long, fuck you Neil Olshey. Unlikely we are in the lottery for all of 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, and 2028; but I after going so young I certainly wouldn't worry about trying to free up that Chicago pick any time soon.

    With pick #3 and #4 would we want to try and do a deal with Charlotte to target Scoot at #2?
    How would we use a Dame trade exception?

    Yeah this team sucks next season in terms of winning games - but it would be super exciting to watch all these elite star prospects, the possibility of adding more talent at the 2024 draft, and think about what younger veterans could eventually complement this core in trade or free agency. I'd much rather follow this team trying to push for the playin spot, then these laughable Blazer teams the last 4 years trying to push for the playin spot.

    Who knows - maybe in 5 years an old Dame comes home to Portland just as LeBron did or Harden is exploring, but for the first time since his first seasons with an actual legit talented core alongside him.
     
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    This site is good too;
    https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Years/index.htm
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    I would want all Brooklyn picks unprotected and all Houston picks unprotected past 2026.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Houston was the only team to give those Durant GS teams a run - they nearly beat them in game 6 and game 7 - so he certainly won a lot those years.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Those years being the operative words.
     
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    lol...and why would Houston trade 3 of their top-4 players and all their notable draft capital for Dame?...so he can lead them to the Lottery next season?

    if your team had just won 22 games, losing 60, and you were locked into a rebuild, would you trade 4 promising very young players, a 4th pick, and three other first's for a 33 year old 6'2 guard making 52M/year over the next 4 seasons?
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah. It's the same thing as that Toronto trade. Fleece the fuck out of someone and just think it's going to happen lol
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yes I could see this being a real thing. Not for a team like Houston, they don't have veterans to give us. But for example Brooklyn or Boston it certainly could be a blocker in Bridges or Brown coming to PDX to play with Dame.

    Boston might believe they can send Brown out for Dame - maybe not directly, but in a 3 way trade where the Blazers get youth/picks.

    Brooklyn might believe they can pair Dame with Bridges in Brooklyn. They don't have their pick so won't have the rebuilding with your own lottery picks benefit teams normally always have. They have a ton of great picks from the Durant Suns trade, some from Philly, and now some more of their own. Dame was at a Nets playoff game supporting Bridges in Brooklyn - just imagine the rumors if that situation had been reversed.
     
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    It would be a team like the Nets or Celtics thinking they could directly benefit in a Dame trade - and not wanting to send out their elite SF. Heck even Toronto might be thinking they could get in on a Dame trade to pairing him on the Raptors with Siakam.

    I don't believe any franchise would hold off on sending a veteran to Portland just to prevent a 3rd team from getting Dame. But if they directly could benefit from Dame being traded - yes they most certainly could hold off doing a different trade that the Blazers might feel an immediate pressure to do.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    The Raptors beat writer for the Athletic proposed an idea:

    Ant + Nas + 3 for Siakam + 13.

    I would do that before they have a chance to think twice.
     

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