We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    I wouldn't let Simmons within 10o feet of the Practice facility.
     
  2. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    He specifically mentioned hitting on lottery picks.
     
  3. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Sharpe was great as a rookie, once he started getting playing time. He was ready to contribute.

    If we could get the next Sharpe at PF that would be pretty great.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Because the Blazers typically pick late. When they've picked early they've obviously had better luck. Dame, CJ, even Zach Collins was ready to contribute right away. He was just injured. Shit happens.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The bench worries me a lot. Doesn't seem to be much firepower. There would be some defensive stalwarts but zero scoring.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    If I was Boston I'd want Siakam for Brown. Something like that is where to start.
    Boston is in actual "can win now" mode.
     
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    TBpup Writing Team

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    Very good. It was never 5 actual picks. It was 3 picks with conditions on 2 more. That said, GP2 out was addition by subtraction. He never wanted to be here and told a client of mine basically as much last summer. So we got something for nothing.

    Odd that it got to the place that both Payton and Brooks representing UO and OSU are persona non grata.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I wouldn't say it was nothing. We gave him the full MLE and handcuffed our books last yr preventing us from going after anyone else of significance because we were hard capped. That opportunity cost was real.

    Just because we got out of a mistake shouldn't excuse the fact that it was made in the first place.

    Even more alarming about what you say is that our FO not only didn't do its due diligence on the injury front, but also in his character/committment to the team.

    This doesn't really inspire confidence in the team's ability to make smart moves this summer.
     
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    twobullz Well-Known Member

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    Your original post said there are players taken after 10 every year that contribute right away. I responded to that, he then brought up only lottery picks, which had nothing to do with your or mine original post. I was saying with those later picks the blazers go for players who have a higher ceiling but are not ready to contribute right away. The original posts had nothing to do with lottery picks, but now that is all people want to talk about, instead of going back and reading your post I responded to.
     
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  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I think a Trae Young for Brown deal makes sense for both teams. And Brown is from the ATL area.
     
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  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I miss the old days when PA would sit down to dinner with potential free agents. I remember reading that they were extremely impressed with Andre Miller. I don't think GP2weeks would have made it past PA.
     
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    It does make some sense, but I am not a huge Trae fan. I would rather have #3, Simons's 24 million, and Little's 6 million than Trae and his 40 million next year.
     
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    Doomed by terrible defense, the owners looks to OLD solutions to their problems. Recognizing that the JailBlazers were much more successful, they complete the following team makeover:

    Blazers trade Damian Lillard for Ja Morant.
    They also obtain Miles Bridges, and draft Brandon Miller.
    Of course, the extend Chauncey Billups, and re-sign Meyers Leonard.

    Presto, talent galore!!!
     
  14. Ed O

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    I still don't understand the logic for signing him in the first place, or at least I don't agree with it (and, as some may recall, I HATED the signing at the time).

    The team ignored our lack of size, ignored Payton's career as a whole (rather than a good couple of dozen games he had at age 30 or so), and overestimated how close the team was to being good.

    I worry that much of the same logic will come into play this summer. The reality is that we're a small, aging team that needs to have everything go right to challenge for HCA. If the team gives up assets to get a guy or two using thinking as flawed as they used with Payton, it's going to hurt this franchise so much in the intermediate-to-long run...
     
  15. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    There isn't time anymore.

    90% of the deals are done before NBA teams are 'officially' able to talk to FAs
     
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    Yeah, it is worrisome that we went Full MLE for a small guy when we were stacked on the perimeter and had absolutely no depth in the post. I do hope roster construction and putting pieces together who make sense addressing all of the needs of an NBA roster is what we see this off season.
     
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    I hope we get the best players, personally, but size and position is definitely a part of it. Payton wasn't/isn't a very good player, he was older, and he didn't fit a hole in our roster. It was like three strikes. Or four, given his injuries. Or five, with his contract hard capping us. Or six, if he didn't want to be in Portland.

    Of those strikes, getting the best player is most important to me. Age (younger) is second-most.

    I know my opinions and priorities don't align with Portland's stated goals, though, so it's probably going to be a summer of frustration (and perhaps a decade+ of it, watching Scoot play elsewhere).
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    As would I. Wonder what Boston thinks.
     
  19. HoopsFanAZ

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    With Hart, the Blazers had a SG/SF who played hard, rebounded and returned the #23.
    With GP2, or the idea of GP2, they had a position-less defender who would hit corner 3’s and back-cut when ignored. They bought a full MLE sized contract for the price of being hard-capped. They obviously didn’t get other targets, but they turned nothing into multiple 2nd rounders and a TPE of $8 + million AND they picked up Matisse through playing small ball trades.

    In other words, for a player who totally didn’t work out and is now persona non grata in the Moda, the Blazers turned a significant profit. Getting Grant for so little was about paying on the back end for a real forward.

    With the recent moves, consistent and transparent statements, and a bit of lottery luck, the chances of building a competitive team with Dame is looking a lot better since Cronin took over.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that has been the case with Olshey and Paul Allen. Paul Allen LOVED to take young guys with tons of potential. That part of the draft was what he lived for.

    I think our current staff has been re-tooled to maximize the chances of getting impact players in the draft.
     

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