Dame all but demanding vet roster

Damn son, someone got owned!

We have a winner here guys, it’s called common sense!

Good write!

 

Public Service announcement

disclaimer: the following is said mostly in jest; no offense is meant to characters real or fictional or inebriated

this forum is experiencing a mild epidemic of DDS (Dame Derangement Syndrome)

* the initial symptom is a compelling urge to see Dame traded. Secondary symptoms of this urge are:

1) an unyielding conviction that 30 years is old; followed by an unyielding conviction that 31 years is old; followed by an unyielding conviction that 32 years is old; followed by an unyielding conviction that 33 years is old. Without treatment this can continue until a belief that 71 is old....which it is, as I know

2) an unshakable belief that no team, ever ever ever, can win with a PG as best player, even though there is evidence to the contrary. can't be done, just CAN'T!

3) a stubborn insistence that an innocuous statement and an inane tweet by the aforementioned Dame, several weeks in the past, are absolutes; they can't be amended and Dame can't change his mind and 11 years of history are subsumed by a single tweet

* adverse reactions to DDS can include:

1) an aberrant compulsion to create goofy-ass petitions calling for Dame's head on a trade platter
2) unhinged desire to accuse Dame of being a bad recruiter
3) a pathological need to accuse Dame of being the one responsible for past bad franchise transactions instead of the GM
4) random accusations of Dame being selfish & unconcerned with Blazers mortgaging future
5) the latest manifested reaction is a belief that Dame is seeing real people in his life as biblical characters

* patients suffering DDS are advised to

1) not jump to conclusions
2) wait till something actually happens, then to practice measured responses to actual events
3) to not keep chirping "trade Dame" like a deranged parrot on Red Bull, as this makes DDS worse
4) drink plenty of fluids containing alcohol
5) enjoy the summer and patiently wait for the season

 

Priceless

 

You're describing.... a countdown. What is the countdown for? A time when Dame is no longer a superstar caliber player. Whether that comes at 35....36.....37....38.... 39.... 40. We don't know, but it is coming, and Dame is getting closer to that time by the day..... hour..... minute..... second.

Not one of mine.

Dude came out and said he's not interested in playing with another 19 year old. Can he change his mind? Sure. Has he said anything publicly that would lead us to believe that he has? Nope.

I don't think Dame is a bad recruiter. I think that for some reason people keep mentioning that Dame has value as a recruiter and we haven't really seen that.

You: the latest manifested reaction is a belief that Dame is seeing real people in his life as biblical characters

Dame: "Judas kind still walks among us."

 

Dame changed his mind last year so I don't so how he can't this year with the #3 pick.

 

yep....you've got some DDS!

 

Cool.

I think you’re suffering from good old fashioned denial. I saw plenty of it leading up to LMA bailing on us. Funny enough, I got the same kind of abuse back then as well.

 

I forgot to add that one treatment plan for DDS is to Lighten up, Francis

 

I haven’t called you any names, unlike some others in this thread. I just disagree with you. I have told you in the past that I think your point of view is reasonable. I just think it’s wrong. Why do I need to lighten up?

 

Maybe me being a fan of the Mariners for 46 years makes me look at the Blazers in the same way. I just can't comprehend an organization doing something right after doing it so wrong for so many years. Lillard is one of the greatest offensive players of his era, but how does a team that has had to reduce themselves to tanking two years in a row suddenly have the assets to build immediately around one player? The players around him aren't good enough to win is the cry I hear, but apparently they are good enough to add the players they need to win. That is one big HUH? for me. I have had my share of retooling/rebuilding with the Mariners so having my Blazers do the same leaves me with hesitation, but what other option is there? I can't see any team we put around Dame winning it all or even competing for it in the next two years so that means where do you want to be three years from now? Lillard at 35 with a mess of a roster/payroll or young top end picks trying to do the same thing we wanted Lillard to do back in his early 20's? The only reason we are even having this debate is because a young kid came to Portland with little college fanfare (I mean MKG, Dion Waiters, & Thomas Robinson were thought to be better by their respective teams) and gave us hope. Seems to me that is our only way back to that journey.

Sorry, just an old dude watching the Mariners get pummeled once again.

 

Remind me again what the trade scenarios back then were for LMA? I don't remember them being that good. So trying to keep him until the bitter end was not that bad IMO. Either way, we still have not replaced his skill level.

 

Supposedly the Warriors made an offer. Not sure how true that was. But losing LMA for nothing massively set us back.

 

Damian is also under contract for years.

LMA was a free agent-to-be.

So the situations aren't all that similar.

Now if the situation was the same, sure, I could see your perspective.

But it's not even close.

And also, LMA was a tool.

 

It was David Lee I believe

 

The Cleveland deal would have been good if the incoming contracts were manageable, I have no idea if they were.

 

Yeah as I recall that 2014 draft was crap. Embiid was the one exception but he was injured at the time. Would the Blazers have gambled on another injured center? And that is only if LMA didn't make the Cavs better enough to not get a top pick. (and if it was unprotected) It is all a gamble, and I would prefer to have gambled on keeping LMA. The cap space we saved could have helped but that was on Neil.

As for Dame, sure if someone offers us a difference maker you consider it. But getting back 45 million in contracts for a player that can be duplicated through other means does not excite me either. I would rather gamble on Dame.

 

I wanted to push the Warriors for Klay instead of Barnes. This was before Klay blew up.

 

because you're responding to my post and I was obviously joking?

remind me again how I am in denial...I'll refresh you memory of the positions I've had and stated pretty consistently for months, including the time since the season ended

* I do not believe Portland will trade Dame unless he demands to be traded

* I have never believed Dame was very close to asking for a trade. I think the odds have been against it and have only increased since Portland landed on 3rd in the lottery

* If the Blazers use the pick on a rookie, and Dame is OK with it, I don't believe it would matter if it was Scoot, Miller, or Amen

* I think the asking price for the often named trade targets will be too high and that Portland has cost-acquisition thresholds they will not cross, as was the case with OG

* my hunch is that the Blazers will kind of traverse a middle ground between adding less expensive vets and using the 3rd pick

* I do not believe the quote or tweet from Dame a couple of months ago are his unyielding position. There are no absolutes in this situation

* I think Cronin and Dame have fairly consistent discussions about the proposals and offers the Blazers are receiving for the 3rd pick and for some of Dame's teammates

* if Dame does ultimately ask to be traded I don't think it will happen in July. I think it would be closer to training camp and the season

* Sharpe won't be traded

so again, what exactly am I in denial about?

 

don't overlook the fact that Dame has sort of painted himself into a corner by saying he is not leaving portland and wanting to win here. More than a few would give him shit for essentially, so they would claim, going back on his word if he were to join stars somewhere else. And come on Orlando? GMAFB. They are on the Banchero timeline plain and simple. They blow their wad on a 50m/year 32 year old when their own future MVP candidate is at least few years away from reaching his ceiling????