We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. Mediocre Man

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    Would Brooklyn take that for the guy they traded for Durant?
     
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    He has none. He’s locked up for many years and he’s not an asshole.
     
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    I myself think theres no reason not to put sharpe in the starting line up at this point purely because we know simons doesnt work with dame that well and id rather force him more minutes (not that he wasnt going to get them anyways) and let him learn from mistakes, hes not pointless coming off the bench either but i think with his length/height hes a better fit with dame. im in the boat of putting Ant in the second unit and let him take the reigns of that, if we end up getting/taking scoot trade ant and nurk for a SF/C upgrade or ones that work better and let scoot take the second unit. if dame is unhappy with using the pick instead of trading it for vets then trade him too i suppose even though i dont want to. I just think that risking a trade for MOST vets for the 3 (or any lotto pick really) is just too risky because there is no guarantee that it will work either and then said vet leaves after a year or two because their contract is up and were stuck with our pickle in our hand.

    As far as what we should do with the 3# pick, for whatever reason i am more high on one of the thompson twins (I keep getting them mixed up but probably the more athletic one with the broken jumper, but cool with either) than i am anyone else -- probably because i like their intangible stats the most and the idea of having someone whos a point forward and known for defense and good work ethic -- id feel fine with scoot, but he feels short and i know everyone is really high on him i just think that im sick of smaller guards who dont defend well to a point and want length and height, and for whatever reason im unexcited about miller not sure why at all but i just feel meh about him from everything i have read/seen. if I had to list them out itd probably go 1. Thompson twin (1) 2. Scoot 3. thompson twin (2) and then miller.

    So with that in mind, I am ok with trading down for more picks in this draft in the lotto, but not for (most) vets. So, i would imagine we would have to trade back a few spots to not "waste" a pick on one of the twins to whoever in the top 4-7 wants scoot/miller and try to get whatever other picks (orlando 6/11, indiana 7/26/29 ECT.) we can off of them, if it can include a younger player that can make us better now IE Franz, Eason, Duren and we can throw in nurk or ant in for the swap too great. Then after fill the holes with whatever other vets we can via trade if we havent traded ant/nurk with the lesser draft picks (outside lotto) if we need sweetners. Im in the mode of get better and win now without sacrificing our future post dame, if post dame is now because we go somewhat young or if thats when he retires as a blazer. I want him to win a championship here and yeah itd be nice if it was in his prime because maybe he could go for more than just one, but the story of dame surviving multiple rebuilds/refreshes and taking the youngins to the promised land and staying true to portland sounds like an awesome one. If he wants to try and go elsewhere to do it and not wait around i get that too, but i hope he can see that there are some bright stars in the draft even outside of wemby and that while vet help is always needed the young guys can still put quality minutes together if he doesnt want to fuck around and find out, i dont blame him but i hope he does end up staying for it and if not, it just means more prospects coming back either now or in the future. Risky to trade down especially if everyone says scoot is basically a guarantee all star, but i think a thompson twin fits better with our team and is still good, and if it nets us more assets that are good than im more for that, than scoot and i just hope it doesnt bite us in the ass....
     
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    His first game as a pro, for one.
     
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    Incorrect. Correct. Correct.
     
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    That wasn't even good enough for him to make All-Rookie 2nd team.
     
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    Can’t know for sure unless you play him.
     
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    You could say that about every NBA player.

    When he's earned his minutes, he'll get an opportunity to show he's ready to be a starter on a competitive team. I hope he's at that point, but I'm not as confident as some.
     
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    Very much correct!
     
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    Overall, I like the post.

    The first point you make it weak, as I can think of a few reasons Sharpe shouldn't start. Does that mean I think he's no good or can't ever be a star? Absolutely not. If the goal is to tank and be a developmental team again next year, then by all means, start the kid and play him a lot!
     
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    He can earn his minutes in practice. Did Dame earn his starting spot on the floor?
     
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    He certainly could earn his starting minutes in practice and then validate them in the games. He didn't last year, but that doesn't mean he's a failure. We'll see if this year is different.

    I hope he proves he's ready to be the #1 option next year on a championship contender. That would be awesome!
     
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    So now we're arguing that what we saw with Sharpe was somehow not real? Seriously, WTF?
     
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    What did we see?

    I think the debate is if he's proven that he's ready to be a starting on a contending team and if he's better than Ant. We certainly haven't seen that to date.

    He was good as a starter on a 2-8 team down the stretch. He had no talent around him, he played well, and there was zero pressure to produce, so not exactly a fair sample size.
     
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    It's a joke. Nurk is being sarcastic...
     
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    I agree. I love Sharpe but (while I don't have the numbers in front of me) I suspect that Ant has had better 10 game stretches in his career than Sharpe did. He didn't do it when he was 19, but he's been a streaky, explosive offensive player and he's still young.

    He has also been, to date, inadequate as a starter to bring the Blazers into contention. That failure doesn't mean he will not someday do it, or that in the right spot he could not contribute on a good team (look at some of the stiffs on Miami's team), but at this point in his career, he needs to be in a good situation.

    That's even more true for Sharpe based on what he's done since high school... excelling in a small number of garbage time regular season games is much better than NOT doing that, but it's not anything approaching competence at a level this team would need from a starting wing in order to compete. Like with Ant, he could get there some day (and he might be more likely to, based on his age and size) but for 2023-24, I need to see more before I have confidence that what we saw at the end of the year is where he's actually at in his career and that it wasn't a premature blip.
     
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    Maybe i just have high hopes for the kid, He doesnt seem like the type to fuck around during the summer. I imagine/hope he will have a significant improvement come the start of the season. And if ant is out like a lot of people here assume he will be, unless we trade for another star SG pretty sure sharpe is going to be our starter regardless but time will only tell....
     

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