Heat and Nets, what am I missing?

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  1. Further

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    After Dame pointed out the Nets (Because of Bridges) and the Heat (Because of Bam) where he would also enjoy playing, I have heard several pundits accepting quickly that those teams could put together good packages for Dame. Nobody follows that up with actual trade package ideas. I can kind of see how the Heat could put something together since they have many years of picks. I see nothing from the Nets.

    Am I missing good trade ideas? If Dame decides it’s time to go, I want to send him somewhere he wants to be, but the Blazers still need to get back a superstar package. What’s are some legitimate Nets and Heat packages?
     
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    I think if we made the decision on draft night then we could set up a trade that goes through when Dame can be traded but includes the rights to picks 21 and 22 from Brooklyn. I think we could get Brooklyn to take Nurk and give up Claxton and we would take back Simmons. They would probably also have to throw in some of the future Suns picks that they have.

    I don't think Miami has a package to offer unless they got a third team involved.

    I don't think any of this is going to be necessary because I think Joe will pull off trades that make this the best roster Dame has had.
     
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    This is probably what you'd get from Miami. I'd look to flip both of them to someone else.

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    Brooklyn is, I think, more intriguing.

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    Tylor Hero, Caleb Martin or Nikola Jovic, Duncan Robinson and this years and next years pick?
     
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    Hero and his Miami model wife would be so unhappy here.
     
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    Look what the Pels got for AD, better be in that range or tell him tough shit.
     
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    BKN has Cam Thomas, a bunch of future picks from the KD trade, the most efficient C in the league in Claxton... It still wouldn't be "fair" value for Dame, but they've got some stuff, I guess?

    I'm of the same mind when it comes to Miami... Herro and future picks? 5 minutes before Dame made that comment the entire world would've laughed at that idea...
     
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    Cam Thomas is a free agent, but yeah, I think Claxton would be a nice pickup. And they have a lot of picks.
     
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    Good point on Thomas, I'd spaced that. Honestly for me, he'd be a big part of a package for Dame.

    If we're literally talking about Claxton, filler and a bunch of meh picks, I'm a lot less interested...
     
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    The Phoenix picks could be really valuable. Durant is 34. That team isn't nearly good enough at this point to be a contender if Durant gets hurt or if he significantly drops off in the next couple years.
     
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    Then send him along elsewhere for other assets. His size & shooting skillset seems redundant with already in place here

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    It has to be a volume trade back. I can't see us getting a superstar back. That doesn't make sense for the there team or Portland. Go young and hope the new Lillard we get with pick #3 works this time. That is on management like it was with the original Lillard.
     
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    I love it. It's my favorite time of year. Anything is possible in the offseason.... and then the games start and reality sets in.
     
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    The Brooklyn package is much better than the Miami scenario.... Only one bad contract and that is only two years.
    but it still does not excite me.
     
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    forget any 2023 picks...that simply won't happen. Fake flash in trade ideas
     
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    I love Dame and he means a lot to this city and franchise. He earned his new contract from the BLAZERS. But I don't get why another team would give us a package like the one above from the Nets at his age and 217 million left on his contract.

    He is not LBJ where good players will take less to play with him and the cupboard will be bare if the Nets offered that. (ok maybe not bare but nothing special) Dame would get crucified by the NY media by year two. I hope for his sake it does not happen.
     
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    BRK, even after giving up a lot of their own picks, still have 7 1st round picks over the next 7 years. Player wise, it is Bridges/Claxton and not much else so it's not like they would be that much worse off. What very well could happen though, is that FA's come to NY to join up with Bridges/Dame right away and they could be a pretty interesting team.
     
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    Brooklyn has nothing outside Bridges/Claxton

    Herro makes ZERO sense here with (hopefully) Scoot on board.

    This is about to be messy - Dame is going to force his way out to a specific team and the return is going to be underwhelming.
     
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    It will be underwhelming....but very well might be the correct thing to do. It's not like we haven't been underwhelming for the last 4 seasons when Dame was 29-32. I'm not sure what we can do in such a short amount of time to turn that around so quickly.

    We still wouldn't be good, but we haven't been. Instead, we would have a lot of young talent, more future cap flexibility, and the 'potential' of better things to come. Perhaps or even likely, that none of those players would even equal Dame's individual numbers, but it wouldn't take that much to equal similar team results in the near future.
     
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