Politics 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

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  1. Phatguysrule

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    It won't happen. You'd have to get 3/4 of states to vote for it.

    This is just a distraction from real solutions that could actually be achieved, and would drastically improve the lives of all lower and middle class Americans.

    This is Democrats supporting people who are opposed to their own best interests. Same as Republicans who oppose a strong social safety net. This is a tool to maintain the status quo.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Once again, kids in the US are 20x more likely to be killed by a parent than by a gun at school.

    We have far bigger problems than this baloney the media and fake liberals are pushing.

    It's their fault you were ever concerned about it at all.

    That said, I'm glad you had a great time!
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    So once again. Are we planning on outlawing the purchase of semiautomatic hunting rifles? That is not popular. And has no chance to pass nationally.

    And if not, how are we going to define an AR 15 in any way that will be enforceable but not ban semiautomatic hunting rifles?

    Seriously. Until you figure that out this is a non starter, which makes it click bait.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    lol...just as predicted.
     
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    I'm all for it! One gun death is one too many. Sure lots of things kill people like cancer and old age but guns you CAN control with proper legislation. I don't care to debate it...unless we start the transition from a gun culture we'll never know what it's like not to live in a gun culture here. I know what its like to live in a country where you can't buy a gun and it was really safe and a better social system than we have now. To be unwilling to see the potential of that is a choice, not a statistic or reality. People used to say that the women's vote would never pass into law but it did.
     
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    Bump stocks and other devices can enable ARs to reportedly fire up to 900 rounds per minute.

    And ARs can be chambered in several calibers larger than a .223 and the type of load/partition is what truly determines the degree of damage done by even smaller caliber rounds.



    Edit; legislation making bump stocks and other devices illegal will not prevent someone who really wants them from acquiring them, even illegally.
     
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    Agreed...the "right to bear arms" was built into out bill of rights over 200 years ago which was obviously way before ARs/assault rifles came to be and the have no practical purpose in the present and are only good for 2 things, killing people and mindlessly/foolishly/needlessly wasting 100s of dollars of ammo in a few seconds at the shooting range just to make some guy feel more macho so that he can then go home and masturbate to Rambo movies.
     
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    Bump stock and other devices can enable any gun to fire up to 900 rounds per minute, and even more. They are typically made for the AR because the AR is the most popular rifle in the US.

    Any gun can be chambered in larger calibers and any modern gun can fire the same type of load/partition as the AR. There is nothing unique about the AR here. Just that it is the most popular rifle in the US.

    Nothing you wrote here is unique to the AR platform.
     
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    Preventing women from voting was oppressive of the weak. Further restricting gun rights is oppressive of the weak. You've been fooled.
     
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    I see you're unable or unwilling to answer the questions.
     
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    AR/Assult Rifles (capable of fully automatic fire) are already illegal to purchase in the US without a rigorous background check and permitting process. Almost nobody does this, and almost nobody owns these kinds of guns because they are not necessary.

    You are either being deliberately ignorant of, or deliberately lying about the facts by equating the AR that the general population can buy with an assault rifle. I am saying this in the spirit of honest conversation. Not as an attack.
     
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    Nope, nope, and nope...and my reasons for not directly engaging certain posters instead of simply using the problematic "ignore" feature was clearly outlined about 2 months ago.
     
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    It's okay to say you don't know better. That's what honest dialogue is all about.

    To summarize: there is no way to legislate the difference between the AR platform that is available today and the hunting rifles sold in this country for the last century. So if all we're talking about is making fully automatic rifles unprotected by the constitution then I'm fine with it. They've been illegal in this country virtually forever.

    If this is trying to make semi-automatic hunting rifles illegal it doesn't stand a chance.
     
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    It's okay. I understand that acknowledging it would be devastating for your preferred narrative. But it's not logical to ignore it.

    Again, I've done a TON of research on this topic, and I'm game to discuss it.
     
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    Sounds like a model that would work really well for all the rest of the guns, then!

    Because, let's face it, none of them are necessary either.

    I believe you've solved the problem.

    barfo
     
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    If you can sell 38 states on that then you might be in business!

    Unfortunately police take over 30 minutes to arrive... and that's in the city if they ever actually DO arrive. So good luck selling anybody on that...

    From a 2013 study ordered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhs...ked-about-defensive-gun-uses/?sh=7f82e0b0299a

    What you would find by making all guns illegal would be that there would be far more fully auto assault rifles on the streets because they are easier to make than semi-auto. Semi-Auto does what people need, so there is no reason to break the law. But if you're already breaking the law to get a hunting rifle, why spend the extra time, effort, or money to make it semi-auto?
     
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    Handguns kill the most people by far.
     
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    No...I've lived half my adult life in a place where gun restrictions works...guns aren't fooling anybody around here, especially war vets. I find that insulting. Nobody ever hid the fact that women and minorities couldn't vote or that you can own guns in America...wide open situations don't "fool" people...they just exist. I lobby for what I believe in. I have grandchildren...I want a better world for them to grow into...one without gun violence.
     
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