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  1. Hoopguru

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    Yeah, much of the trade talk is about front court wings and yet Miller could be the guy as you say is better than Siakam, OG, Vanderbilt, and Bridges. My preference would be to trade the pick for Bridges and some but if that doesn't wrk I hope we consider Miller over Thompson as that guy has struggled to learn to shoot the three and thats what we've needed along with rebounding.
     
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    Agree. Also, when Dame made comments about enough 19 y/o, he made that with the assumption we were picking lower. But we jumped up to top 3 and it just so happened that a quality wing, tall and can shoot well is available. He could veru well be the BPA and best fit at a position we need.

    If Scoot is who's at 3, I hope we trade it + some. It's not a secret, many teams (HOU, NOLA just to name a few) like him, preferably to Nets for Mikal and Clax
     
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    It's higher than Damian Lillard's.
     
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    proportionally to their frames it's about the same, but unlike Dame's form it's preceded by a dip. So Miller's shot is both low and slow

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    proportionally to their frames doesn't matter, that's my point.
     
  6. theprunetang

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    Check out Haliburton's shot, if you want to see a slow and low release working incredibly well in the NBA.
     
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    Have you even watched Miller?! He has very quick release!
     
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    yes I have. I don't know what to tell you other then his shot mechanics are not ideal... low and slow. Many others have made the same observation.

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    Dame also shoots quick and gets a ton of separation. It might well work in the NBA, but it's a concern. His non dunk 2pt percentage is really poor in college.
     
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    Utility Sports says we'll go with Amen over Brandon and that we prefer Scoot out of the three.
     
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    One thing I think is being underrated here is how much he added to his game from senior year in high school to his freshmen year at Alabama. He wasn’t even considered a great 3 point shooter in high school, then became an amazing shooter one year later. And we think he can’t continue to improve his shooting form and other aspects of his game?

    I feel like there’s this weird assumption that both Scoot and Amen will improve in a bunch of ways, but Miller is who he is at this point.
     
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    If that's the case, it hasn't seemed to stop him from shooting a very high percentage while playing against a lot of other future NBA players in the SEC.

    I think we're getting to a point where we're actually looking for things to not like about some of these players.
     
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    I think you're right and I think it's also a bullshit smokescreen that we will keep both Dame and Scoot. I think we plan on trading Scoot if he is there at 3 and we're trying to strengthen our position in negotiations by saying we would be comfortable with him and Dame.

    I will say that if the Hornets get a trade for Scoot that they really like then they might take him and then we'll see what we do in regards to Brandon Miller.
     
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    slow first step and at best average athleticism
     
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    I'm always at that point with every player... just being honest about Miller's particular warts. It's not that I don't think he's a solid prospect, heck I won't be pissed if Portland drafts him at #3 and will hope for the best despite my evaluation. I see Scoot as the clear cut 2nd best prospect with Miller being in a tier of 4-5 players who could go 3. If his form was more like Glen Rice's or Klay Thompson's, I'd have him above Scoot as someone who could be a #1 option. But with his form, I do think he's going to have some issues getting his shot off.

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    I'd encourage you to watch this.

    Miller has no problem going straight up with his three point shot obviously, he does gather at times but it's very dependent on what the defense is doing and also where he catches the ball. He does let it dip down but he doesn't do that even close to half the time he shoots from three or anywhere else. His shot doesn't get blocked often because where he does gather, when he does, it's still higher than where a guy Dame's size starts his shooting motion. The dude has a quick release and has a lot of effective ways of getting off the three ball, it's not inconsistency its situational and that's really encouraging that his shot both from distance and midrange is something that he can do a lot of different ways to adapt to what's in front of him.
     
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    I respect your viewpoint. If he'd played against lesser competition, I think the concern would be more valid, but he's played against NBA-level athletes almost every game in the SEC and he didn't experience problems, so I think it's a minimal worry.

    Not everyone shoots the ball the same way. Players learn to play around the things that might hold them back, and I think Miller already has learned to do that to an extent playing against the college competition he's faced. As I mentioned, Simons and Reggie Miller had similar shots and have done well, and Brandon Miller, being 6-9, I think actually will have fewer issues than they have.
     
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    Thanks, already saw that one (among others) and watched a couple games too. Watching is how I formed the opinion that he dips pretty much every time and his release is low.

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    not meaning to make excuses, but in the last 3 months Miller has had a groin injury and Mono. Having had both of those things I know it can take a long time to get over either. He may be over them, but it's at least worth considering

    I've recently watched a lot of video on Miller. Sometimes I see the concerns about his game you're criticizing him for. Other times, maybe most of the time, I don't see those flaws.

    Scoot may be the BPA. But if there is a gap between Scoot and Miller it's a small gap, IMO. And after watching Denver win the championship, and watching the NBA for decades, I think 6'3 has to have a big-gap advantage rather than a small-gap advantage to beat 6'9.
     
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    This isn't low.
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