OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: JUNE 2023

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  1. noknobs

    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    Suns get Beal for Paul and Shamet? Lol, wtf.
     
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    Yeah, just CP3, Shamet and some second rounders. The suns are going to have a lot of scoring on that team next season. There is only one ball so I don't know if this deal translates into as many wins as it should given how lopsided it is but it's definitely a big win for the Sun FO.
     
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    This deal for Beal is insane and the Suns will have a KILLER offense but I wonder who the hell will stop people this feels like the Suns going back to the old Suns teams with Kevin Johnson , Barkley , Dan M and Jeff Horncek ( sp ) where they just try and run the teams out of the building.
     
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    So how long before CP3 lands back in Phoenix on a vets min
     
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    I’m sorry, but it’s time to trade Dame. There are no moves Blazers can make to compete with Suns, or Nuggets. Time to be realistic and not throw away the next decade by trading the 3rd pick.
     
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    Still waiting for the package you expect back for Dame that gives us the incentive to move him. You saw what Washington got back for Beal. Yes, Dame is better than Beal because he is a PG...but still, who are we getting back that it is worth repeating your point over and over? Just clearing his salary? That is not smart IMO.
     
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    Expect wizards will probably buy out Paul or use him another trade.
     
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    Expect wizards will probably buy out Paul or use him another trade.
     
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    I had the over/under on the first "This means we should trade Dame because all is lost" post at a mere three minutes, but we made it to six minutes. Good job everyone.
     
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    It’s more about not trading the 3rd pick… that is a major asset to give up so Dame can play with his buddy. No move makes these team a true contender. Don’t want to mortgage the future. You team Sharpe with Scoot or Miller and that is a very bright future.
     
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    LOL
     
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    The Suns will have a hard time getting all of those guys capable of scoring 30 to score even 25 a game and their defense doesn't look great. The Nuggets are now the top team in the league but let's say we pull off a three team trade with the Pels and Magic. We end up with Zion and WCJ while giving up #3, Ant and Nurk (Gary Harris goes to the Pels to make salaries work). Then we draft a guy at 23 that can effectively backup the 4 and 5 spot... maybe it's the slipping GG Jackson. Then we re-sign Jerami and Matisse and sign a backup PG like Jevon Carter with the TPMLE.

    I think a rotation of Dame, Shae, Jerami, Zion, WCJ, Matisse, Carter, Nas and a first round rookie big could be just as good as the Nuggets. If a trade like that can't come together and we just end up drafting Scoot or Miller at 3 and BPA at 23 then yeah I think Dame will want to have that talk and Joe should want to as well and then we use Dame's trade value to build onto the young squad that would already be taking shape but let's not call the game before it's over.
     
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    Well, the Suns owner sure has money to set on fire
     
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    I do not want Dame traded but everyone from Windy, to Woj, to Shams has said that because of Beal's no trade clause it was going to be a very small return for him and that Dame would bring back a haul if we decide to trade him. I believe those guys. A lot of teams would want him and all we have to do in order to do right by Dame is get him to a place where he can win. I doesn't have to be the Nets and it definitely doesn't have to be Miami, there will be a lot of suitors with a lot of different packages that would help push the youth rebuild forward.

    Just off the top of my head, if we negotiated the deal for Dame with the Nets before free agency but didn't execute it until July 10 then we could get the rights to pick 21 and 22, we could probably get them to take Nurk and give us Claxton, we'd probably get expiring contracts because they have quite a few of those or Ben Simmons and we'd likely get two or three future firsts. That's a haul.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Suns' owner is a douchebag but he ain't cheap.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    5 players at 170 mil. What, 1 mil for 10 G Leaguers?
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Asinine in what little the Wiz got in return. Call them the Blizzard , because they did the deal in a white out.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    So how will they make that work? Get rid of Ayton?? I don't get it.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Me neither. They have 170 mil. locked up in 5 players. But the team will be Eclipsed by 10, count'em 10 G Leagues at min. salary.
     
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    The Suns will now need depth. What about Ayton for Nurk + Little + Keon? It saves them 6.5M AND give them a much needed depth.
     
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